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Old formats are comforting.",{"id":79,"by":80,"text":81},"47368196","skyberrys","It took me a minute to realize you are recreating the cable menu too. It's a nostalgic hit. All it's missing is a chunky remote and annoying siblings to fight with.",{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"47372435","apetresc","If this was an Apple TV app, I think it would be the default mode in my household.",{"value":87,"source":68,"evidence":88},"Curation makes finding things to watch easier than YouTube's algorithm",[89,93,97,101],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"47370808","skrebbel","I feel like your excellent curation is a big part of the magic here. Amazing work.",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"47372758","stbtrax","I love it. This is so much better for finding random things to watch than the algo",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"47368549","bentt","I love this. At a glance, here are some dynamics this reveals: 1. You can share a channel with a friend and know that they see the same thing as you. What's on at 5:03pm on…",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"47367616","cedws","I really like this. Often I just want to watch something but YouTube insidiously steers me towards doom videos, even after clearing cookies. I like that this bypasses the…",{"value":106,"source":68,"evidence":107},"Calming, low-stress way to watch in background",[108,112],{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"47370254","uean","I just love it. This calms me in a way I can't put my finger on... something about not needing to endless scroll and choose based off a thumbnail and endure an intro and…",{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"47371599","hallux","I love this. I miss TV from my youth. I often work on our sofa and just have something on our TV from YouTube. This will be the perfect thing to have in the background instead of…",[117,132,142,153],{"value":118,"source":68,"evidence":119},"Not usable with a TV remote or keyboard navigation",[120,124,128],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"47370183","morb","As others have noticed, this is similar to ytch.xyz. What ytch does better is that it is mostly keyboard navigable (with minor annoyances), which also makes it usable with a…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"47370720","devrundown","This would be amazing to be able to use on a TV with a remote!",{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"47368619","iamspoilt","Is there an app for this I can download on my Apple TV?",{"value":133,"source":68,"evidence":134},"Channel switching requires tapping on the left, not obvious",[135,139],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"47367564","ElijahLynn","My first impulse was when pressing the channels that it wasn't working. I then realized I had to hold down my thumb for it to then give me a prompt to tune to the channel. 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