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The implication that Cursor is a fraudulent company is a little weird considering they actually have real users. Like sure, is it a VS code…",{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},"47580954","afavour","> The implication that Cursor is a fraudulent company is a little weird To my reading the premise of the site is pretty straightforward: 30 Under 30 is a warning sign, not a…",{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"47581101","tdb7893","Maybe it was added after your comment but that section has a warning box calling the score a \"deliberately absurd formula\" and saying \"this is comedy\" in literal bold letters at…",[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":68,"objections":91,"requests":136,"questions":145,"alternatives":164},[69,80],{"value":70,"source":50,"evidence":71},"Good site design and UI",[72,76],{"id":73,"by":74,"text":75},"47581140","asdev","If you didn't know, 30 under 30 doesn't have a selection process and you can literally apply and game your way into being mentioned. I honestly love the site and the UI. Great…",{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},"47580947","sixtyj","Nice work. In section The 30u30 Risk Index there is some css bug, text is in long lines outside of boxes.",{"value":81,"source":50,"evidence":82},"Fraud list section is fair satire",[83,87],{"id":84,"by":85,"text":86},"47580905","YossarianFrPrez","Reactions to this are a bit curious. It's a satirical comment on how (presumably) initially well-intentioned younger founder-types get swept up in \u002F by perverse incentives. The…",{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"47580724","rogerkirkness","I've met several of the people on the first few pages on the watch list, and they are among the sketchiest Silicon Valley people I've met. The criteria are plausible.",[92,107,118,125],{"value":93,"source":50,"evidence":94},"Watchlist risk scores target real people unfairly and border on defamation",[95,99,103],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"47581074","kelnos","The \"watchlist\" made me a bit uncomfortable. I get that it's satire, but putting real people's names in a list of people you're (even jokingly) watching for fraud, and assigning…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"47580579","NewsaHackO","Did you read the page? The first portion is whatever, but then it lists random founders with no record of doing anything nefarious based on a random ranking list. It's literally…",{"id":104,"by":105,"text":106},"47580648","ForHackernews","Correct. It's abusive to apply probabilistic AI models to real human individuals and penalize them for things they haven't even done yet with no recourse. I hope you will…",{"value":108,"source":50,"evidence":109},"Including Cursor as a risk is unwarranted",[110,111,115],{"id":53,"by":54,"text":55},{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"47580813","AIorNot","I'm all for the big names and ones that have proven issues and companies like Delve to be shamed But Cursor? 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