[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":1022},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-49197137":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":20,"keywords":22,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":49,"post_text":51,"what":52,"said":94,"maker_in_thread":227,"shape":239,"grid":244,"attempts":984,"same_week":985,"maker_shows":44,"maker_hidden":1014,"reader_version":1015,"card":1016},"49197137","Altar II","I spent 2 years designing a mechanical Magic Keyboard","title","Show HN: I spent 2 years designing a mechanical Magic Keyboard","https:\u002F\u002Felectronicmaterialsoffice.com\u002F","electronicmaterialsoffice.com","aemerson_",1786026374,2026,306,245,144,4366,4,"legend","hardware","mechanical keyboard",[21,23,24,25,26],"low profile keyboard","magic keyboard alternative","macos keyboard","zmk firmware","mixed",0.096,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":32,"critical":33},40,68,18,33,159,{"design":36,"idea":39,"privacy":41,"performance":43,"pricing":45,"docs":47,"execution":48},{"positive":37,"critical":38},20,24,{"positive":18,"critical":40},3,{"positive":42,"critical":42},0,{"positive":42,"critical":44},1,{"positive":18,"critical":46},2,{"positive":42,"critical":42},{"positive":40,"critical":46},[18,44,40,42,44,46,40,18,46,40,44,40,46,44,40,40,40,18,40,18,40,46,18,18,18,18,50,40,18,50,18,50,18,40,18,44,44,44,18,40],5,"Hi HN, today I’m revealing Altar II, an ultra-low profile (4.75mm) mechanical keyboard designed to replace your Magic Keyboard. It’s the keyboard I wish Apple made.\n\nAltar II has fully mechanical switches, plus a magnetically detachable dial, haptic feedback, a red backlight, and a native macOS companion app.\n\nI’m a heavy Mac user and I feel that Apple hasn’t given its keyboards the attention they deserve, in terms of hardware, software, and features, so I set out to try and change that.\n\nIt was a massive undertaking and it has taken almost 2 years to get to this stage. One of the main obstacl",{"problem":53,"audience":59,"pricing":63,"motivation":72,"time_to_build":76,"stack":80,"openness":91,"stage":92,"team_size":93},{"value":54,"source":55,"evidence":56},"Apple keyboards lack attention; maker wanted a better Mac keyboard with mechanical switches","maker",[57],{"id":58},"post",{"value":60,"source":55,"evidence":61},"Heavy Mac users who want a Magic Keyboard alternative",[62],{"id":58},{"value":64,"source":55,"evidence":65},"$249 early pre-order price, $349 retail",[66,69],{"id":67,"by":11,"text":68},"49200080","We have spent a lot of time and effort finding manufacturing partners and ensuring they can produce Altar II at the scale and quality we require. In fact we have delayed…",{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"49199031","This price is only for people who reserve before we launch on Kickstarter. I agree it is good value but also I should point out the retail price will be $349 for anyone buying…",{"value":73,"source":55,"evidence":74},"Maker is a heavy Mac user who felt Apple neglected its keyboards",[75],{"id":58},{"value":77,"source":55,"evidence":78},"Almost 2 years",[79],{"id":58},[81],{"value":82,"source":55,"evidence":83},"ZMK firmware",[84,87],{"id":85,"by":11,"text":86},"49200150","It is fully compatible with Linux with respect to typing, volume control and so on. The firmware source code will be published publicly on Github in the future, as our other…",{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"49200877","ValentineC","Is the battery replaceable? Or is the keyboard going to be tethered-only when the lithium battery degrades after 5-10 years?","unknown","prototype","team",{"praise":95,"objections":112,"requests":158,"questions":187,"alternatives":210},[96],{"value":97,"source":98,"evidence":99},"Industrial design and website look impressive","commenter",[100,104,108],{"id":101,"by":102,"text":103},"49198648","ary","To everyone who is about to pile on regarding the lack of a fingerprint sensor: you know it's not possible, we all know it's not possible, the creator of this project knows it's…",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"49198576","mistersquid","The promo website is something to behold and by itself is sufficient reason to chuck a buck at the possibility of Altar II coming into existence. Thank you, good luck, and…",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"49198126","johng","Wow, beautiful. Both the site and the keyboard. I put a deposit down. Edit: in reply to the person above because I keep getting a \"You're posting too fast. Please slow down.…",[113,125,136,147],{"value":114,"source":98,"evidence":115},"No fingerprint sensor",[116,120,124],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"49198168","charrondev","I’m assuming it’s not possible for it to include a fingerprint sensor? As much as I’d like a mechanical keyboard for my Mac that’s always the part that gets me. I end up using…",{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"49198463","splittydev","Looks great, but sadly no fingerprint sensor is a deal breaker for me. I know it's not actually possible, so not your fault, but it's not for me. I rely on that thing way too much.",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},{"value":126,"source":98,"evidence":127},"Price is high versus alternatives",[128,132],{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"49200012","hamburglar","This looks incredible but I’m skeptical you can actually produce it for $250 and maintain the level of quality and features that you claim. And it appears you’re offering $100…",{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"49199729","dmhmr","Love what you did, the dedication for 2 years to launch this is awesome. Apple keyboards are near-horrific IMO so you are filling an important niche for sure. I know it is a…",{"value":137,"source":98,"evidence":138},"No numpad",[139,143],{"id":140,"by":141,"text":142},"49198727","Hugsbox","Unfortunately, no numpad is definitely a dealbreaker. Looks like a really cool product, but the numpad is a _must_ for any keyboard you want to do real work on, at least in my…",{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"49198687","gilthelander","I don't understand the overwhelming praise. This product is just bizarre. Who is this for? What's with the giant numbers and tiny symbols? I know where the numbers are from…",{"value":148,"source":98,"evidence":149},"Oversized number key legends",[150,154],{"id":151,"by":152,"text":153},"49199464","swingboy","Great looking keyboard but why are the numbers on the number keys so large? They stick out like a sore thumb.",{"id":155,"by":156,"text":157},"49198447","rckclmbr","Love the keyboard, looks solid. Out of curiosity, why did you make the numbers so big? It looks like an intentional design choice and I don’t know if I like it, but I’m wondering…",[159,166,173,180],{"value":160,"source":98,"evidence":161},"Numpad version",[162],{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"49198451","anentropic","Any plans for a model with numeric keypad too?",{"value":167,"source":98,"evidence":168},"Windows key markings",[169],{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"49198757","xingped","Love the design and have also wanted a super low profile mechanical keyboard like this! I have one question though - what is the travel or activation distance of the keys? The…",{"value":174,"source":98,"evidence":175},"Full color backlight",[176],{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"49198389","bix6","Love it! Can you offer full color lighting instead of just red?",{"value":181,"source":98,"evidence":182},"Split ergonomic layout",[183],{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"49198374","nicksergeant","My dream keyboard, if only it could split down the middle for ergonomics :(",[188,192,203],{"value":189,"source":98,"evidence":190},"Is the battery replaceable",[191],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},{"value":193,"source":98,"evidence":194},"Linux compatibility and firmware openness",[195,199],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"49198593","ethersteeds","This looks beautiful. While obviously a Mac keyboard, to what extent is it compatible with Linux? Will there be documentation of its features beyond a standard Bluetooth HID,…",{"id":200,"by":201,"text":202},"49198650","recensorium","This looks awesome! The thing I'd want to know is how much of the configuration lives on firmware vs. in the macOS app? If the app is a thin config editor and the mappings remain…",{"value":204,"source":98,"evidence":205},"Shipping date",[206],{"id":207,"by":208,"text":209},"49199864","railgunmerlin","given kickstarter is november, when do you expect to ship?",[211,216,220],{"value":212,"source":98,"evidence":213},"Apple Magic Keyboard",[214,215],{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},{"value":217,"source":98,"evidence":218},"Keychron K3",[219],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},{"value":221,"source":98,"evidence":222},"Choc switch keyboards",[223],{"id":224,"by":225,"text":226},"49200096","allenc","I've built about 10 mechanical keyboards so far, including a bunch of split ergo ones and low profile variants too. From that, I know the layout matters a lot, as well as the…",{"comments":228,"answered":37,"key":229},32,[230,233,236],{"id":231,"text":232},"49199963","Thank you, it's been a real labour of love! People are raising a good point RE Touch ID. It is possible to add a fingerprint sensor. But that fingerprint sensor will never be…",{"id":234,"text":235},"49199105","The travel distance on the Altar II switches is 1.8mm, so about 0.8mm more than on a MacBook keyboard. Similar to those keyboards, there is very little pre-travel on Altar II…",{"id":237,"text":238},"49199458","Reservations are open until the Kickstarter launches on November 10th 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