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I guess the user has to contact the owner from a different…",{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},"4935857","zx2c4","Fairly obvious practical detail -- I'm at someplace new, where I don't have internet. I see if there are any open networks, no dice, but I see an encrypted network as…",{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"4933040","comment below from Mat, who built this: Email spam should be prevented by the captcha - check http:\u002F\u002Fwww.wifis.org\u002Fexample",{"value":64,"source":50,"evidence":65},"Neighbours and people in shared buildings who want temporary WiFi access",[66,70,74],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"4933209","cwilson","This has potential but it needs more focus. Instead of making it so open ended (i.e. Want to grab a beer? -- which is kind of creepy), make it very specific. This is a service…",{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"4933257","vishl","This is a good idea. The market is fairly small (people who are both tech savvy enough to understand what's going on and altruistic enough to want to participate), but that's ok.…",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"4933193","savrajsingh","This makes so much sense in high-rise apartment buildings where everyone has their own cable connection and wireless router. The cable companies don't want you to share your…",{"value":79,"source":80,"evidence":81},"Not monetised yet","maker",[82],{"id":83,"by":11,"text":84},"4932833","A friend of mine built this as an evening side-project and launched it about a year ago. With pretty much no effort, it got picked up by theNextWeb, RWW, BoingBoin and others:…",{"value":86,"source":80,"evidence":87},"Make WiFi sharing between people social, like Couch Surfing",[88,89],{"id":83,"by":11,"text":84},{"id":90,"by":11,"text":91},"4933054","It's about people being nice and sharing with each other. Like Couch Surfing perhaps. There doesn't have to be financial gain, although I am trying to tell him there could be...",[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":96,"objections":107,"requests":153,"questions":168,"alternatives":182},[97],{"value":98,"source":99,"evidence":100},"Good idea with potential for community and social benefits","commenter",[101,102,106],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"4933371","fudged71","A lot of people don't talk to their neighbours. This has the potential to have lots of social benefits. You could contact people in your vicinity about lost pets, garage sales,…",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},[108,120,131,142],{"value":109,"source":99,"evidence":110},"Can be done by putting an email address in the SSID",[111,115,116],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"4933181","Zash","You could just put some piece of contact info in your ESSID?",{"id":53,"by":54,"text":55},{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"4933220","mikeash","What's the advantage over renaming my network to \"@mikeash\", \"twitter.com\u002Fmikeash\", \"http:\u002F\u002Fmikeash.com\u002F, or similar?",{"value":121,"source":99,"evidence":122},"Contacting the owner needs internet access, which users may not have",[123,124,128],{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"4933014","dpcx","It seems like an interesting idea. But without wifi access, it's hard to visit a page to send an email.",{"id":129,"by":126,"text":130},"4933454","While true, it's definitely an inconvenience; especially for one-off uses of wifi.",{"value":132,"source":99,"evidence":133},"Sharing a home connection may breach ISP contracts and liability laws",[134,138],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"4933234","brendanib","I believe that with nearly any ISP you're contractually prohibited from sharing your home internet connection with neighbors or anyone outside of your residence, so creating a…",{"id":139,"by":140,"text":141},"4933429","killerpopiller","this is a very bad idea! Since the concept of \"Störerhaftung\" got introduced (interferer accountability), the account holder will be held liable for copyright infringement. This…",{"value":143,"source":99,"evidence":144},"Unclear benefit over existing alternatives and small market",[145,148,149],{"id":146,"by":118,"text":147},"4933316","Privacy I could see, although it would be very easy to set up a new account just for my wifi if I was concerned about that. But ease of use? How is setting something up on a new…",{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},{"id":150,"by":151,"text":152},"4932957","untog","It's a clever idea. I'm not 100% sure I'd use it because I'm not totally sure what the benefits are vs the potential downside (spam? e-mails saying LET ME USE UR NETWORK QUICKLY…",[154,162],{"value":155,"source":99,"evidence":156},"Add payment handling and access management for paid sharing",[157,158],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"4933440","goronbjorn","If you built a way for people to pay each other into this (like Stripe Connect, for example) this could be interesting.",{"value":163,"source":99,"evidence":164},"Add a way to show speed and network details",[165],{"id":166,"by":104,"text":167},"4933342","In this case, it might be useful to indicate how fast your connection speed and network is, to give people more information if they decide to buy access. What about having…",[169,175],{"value":170,"source":99,"evidence":171},"Why would I want my WiFi to be contactable?",[172],{"id":173,"by":174,"text":170},"4933038","alexchamberlain",{"value":176,"source":99,"evidence":177},"How does it compare to FON?",[178],{"id":179,"by":180,"text":181},"4933067","aw3c2","How does it compare to http:\u002F\u002Fwww.fon.com\u002F , https:\u002F\u002Fen.wikipedia.org\u002Fwiki\u002FFON ?",[183,191,199],{"value":184,"source":99,"evidence":185},"FON",[186,187],{"id":179,"by":180,"text":181},{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"4933122","nmat","It's completely different. FONERA aims at creating a global network of free wifi everywhere. To participate you need to buy a FONERA router. Wifis.org is simply a way to…",{"value":192,"source":99,"evidence":193},"Putting an email address in the SSID",[194,195],{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"4935427","mutagen","Several years ago I set my AP name to one of my email addresses with the express purpose of being able to share WiFi if someone needed brief internet access. No one has ever…",{"value":200,"source":99,"evidence":201},"Wifichat.net",[202],{"id":203,"by":204,"text":205},"4935055","jaredsohn","Sounds like http:\u002F\u002Fwww.wifichat.net http:\u002F\u002Fnews.ycombinator.com\u002Fitem?id=4497623",{"comments":207,"answered":33,"key":208},6,[209,210,213],{"id":83,"text":84},{"id":211,"text":212},"4933254","yep - same as with AirBnB most people are not allowed to sub-let their apartments and let's not get started on Uber... 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