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Don't really want to create an account just to see what this is all about.",{"value":111,"source":51,"evidence":112},"Blank page when Facebook SDK is blocked",[113,117,121],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"4945392","jimrhoskins","In case anyone is confused, it requires Facebook, so if you block FB, it will be pretty much an empty page with some footer links. I assumed it had crashed. But they assumed I…",{"id":118,"by":119,"text":120},"4945754","JungleGymSam","I only see a stripe at the top and two links at the bottom (which are also very near the top of the page). Using Chrome.",{"id":122,"by":123,"text":124},"4946090","adventured","I don't block Facebook, and it's still not showing up. 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