[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":727},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-5022472":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":49,"post_text":50,"what":51,"said":79,"maker_in_thread":200,"shape":209,"grid":213,"attempts":690,"same_week":691,"maker_shows":18,"maker_hidden":719,"reader_version":720,"card":721},"5022472","Pitchbox","Our alternative to recruiter spam","title","Show HN: Our alternative to recruiter spam","https:\u002F\u002Ftrypitchbox.com\u002F","trypitchbox.com","bitsweet",1357584771,2013,233,168,55,1739,4,"notable","web_saas","recruiting marketplace","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"developer jobs","recruiter alternative","job matching","contingency recruiting","curious",-0.155,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":18,"critical":33},12,50,25,91,{"idea":36,"pricing":39,"design":42,"execution":44,"privacy":47,"docs":48},{"positive":37,"critical":38},5,6,{"positive":40,"critical":41},1,11,{"positive":43,"critical":43},3,{"positive":45,"critical":46},0,2,{"positive":40,"critical":43},{"positive":45,"critical":45},[37,40,45,46,40,37,43,43,43,46,40,43,40,40,43,45,40,43,40,40,43,43,43,43,43,18,43,43,43,18,40,46,43,43,43,40,40,43,43,46],null,{"problem":52,"audience":59,"pricing":66,"motivation":72,"time_to_build":50,"stack":76,"openness":77,"stage":78,"team_size":77},{"value":53,"source":54,"evidence":55},"Recruiter spam and time-consuming job searching for developers","maker",[56],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},"5022478","Hi HN. We were tired of recruiters so we built this because it was something we wish existed. We had \"satisfying\" jobs and liked who we worked with but we were not naive and knew…",{"value":60,"source":54,"evidence":61},"Software developers seeking jobs, and companies hiring them",[62,63],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},{"id":64,"by":11,"text":65},"5023121","Our focus has been developers because we are most familiar with how messed up the status quo is for us and how we can improve it. That being said we have also seen an…",{"value":67,"source":54,"evidence":68},"Free for developers; employers pay a flat $25K placement fee on hire",[69],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"5023109","We'll be creating a FAQ from this HN discussion. We intend to be very transparent. It is free for the developer. Even though it is different, we found it easiest when employers…",{"value":73,"source":54,"evidence":74},"Founders were tired of recruiters and wanted a better way to find jobs",[75],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":80,"objections":103,"requests":137,"questions":168,"alternatives":187},[81,92],{"value":82,"source":83,"evidence":84},"Clean, beautiful design","commenter",[85,89],{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},"5023403","liberatus","Our solution to recruiter spam: Become a recruiter. I'm sorry but how is your business model any different from that of a recruiter? 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I recommend making the \"what do you want to do\" a bit more explicit (e.g., more multiple choice, asking me to give examples of jobs I'd leave my current…",[104,115,122,133],{"value":105,"source":83,"evidence":106},"$25K placement fee is too high",[107,111],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"5023753","DavidAdams","I'm currently hiring developers, and I also hate recruiters, for the reasons you outline. I was interested to learn about your flat $25K fee in the comments here, and I can tell…",{"id":112,"by":113,"text":114},"5023635","DGCA","$25k is ridiculous, unless you make some guarantees, which you don't seem to do (wouldn't know, there's no relevant info for employers without signing up).",{"value":116,"source":83,"evidence":117},"Salary ranges seem unrealistically high",[118],{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"5023519","andy_adams","The salary ranges seem very high from my experience. I've been developing for a few years, and I know a handful of excellent developers working for big-name companies...and I…",{"value":123,"source":83,"evidence":124},"Privacy concern about giving name and employer during signup",[125,129],{"id":126,"by":127,"text":128},"5023847","clebio","Sorry, but what part of 'Stay anonymous ... 100% Private & confidential - Learn your market value without your current employer ever knowing' involves me giving you my name,…",{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"5022962","hnwh","A little sketched out about putting my real name on here.. how do I know my current employer won't see it?",{"value":134,"source":83,"evidence":135},"Business model looks like a recruiter's",[136],{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},[138,145,156,164],{"value":139,"source":83,"evidence":140},"Clearer explanation of why signup data is collected",[141],{"id":142,"by":143,"text":144},"5023620","brown9-2","I think the signup flow could use more handholding as far as telling the prospective developer why you need the information you are asking for and what you plan to do with it…",{"value":146,"source":83,"evidence":147},"Ability to add free-text background and publications",[148,152],{"id":149,"by":150,"text":151},"5022674","PedroCandeias","Just went through the signup process. There should be a textbox for those of us who don't maintain great github profiles to say a few words about ourselves.",{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},"5022944","electrograv","As a developer, I love the concept - obviously, a tool that filters for great jobs and pitches them to developers is really appealing. However I'm curious about a few things: 1)…",{"value":157,"source":83,"evidence":158},"Support for summer internships and designers",[159,160],{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},{"id":161,"by":162,"text":163},"5022964","webbruce","Awesome, any plans for designers?",{"value":165,"source":83,"evidence":166},"Clarify expected wait time for pitches",[167],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},[169,176,180],{"value":170,"source":83,"evidence":171},"Is it US only and does it support telecommuting?",[172],{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"5022810","reinhardt","Is it US only? How about telecommuting?",{"value":177,"source":83,"evidence":178},"How are developers and companies filtered?",[179],{"id":153,"by":154,"text":155},{"value":181,"source":83,"evidence":182},"How is a good pitch distinguished from a bad one?",[183],{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"5023138","abahgat","I'm curious: in \"Every pitch received improves our personalized matching algorithm, making pitches get even better over time.\" how would you distinguish a \"good\" pitch from a…",[188,193],{"value":189,"source":83,"evidence":190},"Traditional recruiters and contingency placement firms",[191,192],{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},{"id":86,"by":87,"text":88},{"value":194,"source":83,"evidence":195},"Resume-hiding sites with pay-per-contact",[196],{"id":197,"by":198,"text":199},"5022583","codva","Interesting - kind of reminds me of a site a friend built a few years ago. It was a resume site with contact info hidden. In order to contact you the recruiter had to pay you -…",{"comments":201,"answered":202,"key":203},33,14,[204,205,206],{"id":57,"text":58},{"id":70,"text":71},{"id":207,"text":208},"5023400","Wow, that's pretty steep. Maybe that's just a west coast thing. 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