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I quit my full-time job almost a year ago to travel and work on startup ideas, and this is the fruit of my labor in the past six months that I hope you'll find useful. I…",{"value":56,"source":50,"evidence":57},"Startups and indie iOS developers",[58],{"id":53,"by":11,"text":54},{"value":60,"source":61,"evidence":62},"Flat price per test, around $200 per a commenter's reading","commenter",[63],{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"5105157","king_magic","This looks great, and I think it's a really good price point. $200 is quite reasonable, IMO, for the kind of detail you guys are getting into. 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