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We're aiming to solve the problems of the non-techie market. People who just want to sell something online shouldn't be worrying about payment gateways,…",{"id":55,"by":52,"text":56},"5214646","I didn't mean that programmers and \"people who barely understand HTML\" were the same person. Sorry for the confusion. We're aiming Forge at people who can't code their own…",{"value":58,"source":48,"evidence":59},"Non-technical people who want to sell things online, e.g. users of WordPress or Squarespace",[60,61],{"id":51,"by":52,"text":53},{"id":55,"by":52,"text":56},{"value":63,"source":48,"evidence":64},"Free, per a commenter's remark",[65,69],{"id":66,"by":67,"text":68},"5214418","switch33","Is this just another wacky advertisement? Why would people use this over the more useful\u002Fwell-known ones like stripe or braintree payments? 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