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Three main differences: 1. Other services tend to focus on main street, traditional small businesses. So their forms are missing…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"5359029","Thanks for the comment Larry! Many founders feel comfortable doing things themselves on Clerky, but many also loop in their lawyers (for the reasons you describe). It just makes…",{"id":62,"by":63,"text":64},"5357648","anandkulkarni","I remember thinking that Clerky was perhaps the most remarkably disruptive service in our YC class. As the person responsible for handling most of our early-stage paperwork and…",{"value":66,"source":67,"evidence":68},"Venture-backed startups, especially Y Combinator companies, and their lawyers.","maker",[69,72,75],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"5357841","Thanks for the feedback - we'll add an information page about that! For the timebeing, we're focused on startups that intend to be venture-backed (if they aren't already), which…",{"id":73,"by":11,"text":74},"5362123","Yup, most do! Check out the customers section on our homepage :) For incorporations, we work together with YC to get everyone set up, so pretty much everyone uses us unless…",{"id":76,"by":11,"text":77},"5358345","It means you'd be using the exact same forms (and in fact software) that YC has its incoming companies use to get set up.",{"value":79,"source":80,"evidence":81},"Charges $100 to $300 per incorporation, per a commenter's reading.","commenter",[82],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"5357893","ronyeh","One suggestion: for the majority of startups (based in California) that will use your service, it might be easier to register as a California C Corp. I can't imagine any VC…",{"value":87,"source":67,"evidence":88},"Founders' legal setup distracts from building the business; lawyers should avoid rote tasks.",[89,92],{"id":90,"by":11,"text":91},"5358066","I suspect it's just that just about 100% of venture-backed companies are DE, so to the extent you're a snob about being venture-backed, you might be a snob about where a company…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":97,"objections":110,"requests":137,"questions":164,"alternatives":178},[98,106],{"value":99,"source":80,"evidence":100},"Saves time and money on early-stage paperwork.",[101,102],{"id":62,"by":63,"text":64},{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"5357649","rdl","This, along with hellofax, is one of the most useful startups I've ever encountered. Saved literally tens of hours and lots more hassle.",{"value":107,"source":67,"evidence":108},"Faster than LegalZoom for incorporation filing.",[109],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},[111,122,130],{"value":112,"source":80,"evidence":113},"Automated forms may not suit every case and need attorney review.",[114,118],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"5357942","kyro","This looks great and I'd consider using it in the near future. However, with a service like this that drastically simplifies a legal process, I can't help but feel a bit wary.…",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"5358123","Nrsolis","I LOL'ed. The number of lawyers who will review a corporate formation package you bought online is laughably small. Asymptotically zero in fact. 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