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There are three categories of usage for an app like this. 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It's very cool what you've built. A few nits: - I didn't realize \"Try It Now\" was a link to play with the product without signing up. This might do better as…",{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"5420623","oaksagelew","Love how you do the text handling - click, with little draggable, resizeable text area with handle; how did you build that - jQueryUI with lots of mods, or something even lower…",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"5421466","andrewflnr","Dang, works on iPad too.",{"value":113,"source":98,"evidence":114},"Works on iPad",[115],{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},[117,124,139],{"value":118,"source":98,"evidence":119},"Google Drawings already does much of this",[120],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"5418949","simonsarris","I upvoted this because I upvote every genuine Show HN, but I think you need to give more compelling reasons to use the product over what I (and I'm sure others) are already…",{"value":125,"source":98,"evidence":126},"Sign-up required before trying the product",[127,131,135],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"5419396","8ig8","> I didn't realize \"Try It Now\" was a link to play with the product without signing up. This might do better as a button. Same here. I was about to _complain_ about the sign up…",{"id":132,"by":133,"text":134},"5419845","Sym3tri","Same here. You might want to consider making the \"try it now\" button\u002Flink more prominent and above the login form. My 1st instinct was \"Oh I have to sign up, forget it.\"",{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"5421206","Zombieball","Your landing page doesn't compel me at all to provide my email address & sign up for an account. The blurb of text is great and all but a few pictures or even a short video clip…",{"value":140,"source":98,"evidence":141},"Needs collaboration without a hosted server",[142,146],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"5420992","nonamegiven","It's very nice, I hope it does well. I may have missed it, but does this do collaborative editing between 2 or more people? That would be the thing that could convince me to use…",{"id":147,"by":144,"text":148},"5422361","No specific immediate need. 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