[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":438},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-5598852":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":48,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":85,"maker_in_thread":214,"shape":223,"grid":226,"attempts":399,"same_week":400,"maker_shows":41,"maker_hidden":430,"reader_version":431,"card":432},"5598852","Squaresend","Less annoying mailto links","title","Show HN: Squaresend - Less annoying mailto links","https:\u002F\u002Fsquaresend.com\u002F","squaresend.com","waterapp",1366762963,2013,95,66,237,1739,14,"notable","web_saas","contact form widget","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"contact form","mailto links","static site","email form","mixed",-0.093,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":33,"critical":32},10,15,5,45,{"idea":36,"design":39,"execution":42,"docs":44,"pricing":46,"privacy":47},{"positive":37,"critical":38},8,7,{"positive":40,"critical":41},0,1,{"positive":40,"critical":43},2,{"positive":40,"critical":45},3,{"positive":40,"critical":43},{"positive":40,"critical":40},[41,40,40,45,40,45,41,45,33,41,45,40,33,41,41,45,45,45,41,45,41,45,40,33,41,33,40,45,40,41,41,45,33,45,41,45,41,45,33,45],null,{"problem":51,"audience":58,"pricing":70,"motivation":78,"time_to_build":49,"stack":82,"openness":83,"stage":84,"team_size":83},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Site owners want contact forms without managing them, while visitors find mailto links unreliable","maker",[55],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"5599034","Hi StavrosK, I'm one of the developers. I don't know if this was clear from the homepage but we're targeting site owners. Many sites use mailto links because they don't want to…",{"value":59,"source":60,"evidence":61},"Site owners, especially small businesses and static sites","commenter",[62,66],{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},"5599272","CCs","I think this is a good idea. And I know small businesses looking for such (working) solution and they would happily pay $3\u002Fmonth. Question: why not let the user choose? Show the…",{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"5599315","elyase","I think you should market it differently, something along the lines of \"easy contact forms for static websites\". This is a real need many small web shops have. I for example…",{"value":71,"source":60,"evidence":72},"About $3\u002Fmonth for small businesses, 100 emails mentioned",[73,74],{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"5599432","rubinelli","Absolutely this. The first thing that came to mind on seeing this was a site for a NGO I want to migrate away from Wordpress. (although I wonder how well they'd monetize those;…",{"value":79,"source":53,"evidence":80},"Make contact forms easier for site owners who use mailto links",[81],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},[],"unknown","launched",{"praise":86,"objections":110,"requests":159,"questions":189,"alternatives":205},[87,99],{"value":88,"source":60,"evidence":89},"Useful for static sites and small businesses",[90,91,95],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"5599409","tathagata","This can be useful for people with static websites who want to include a contact form in some of their pages.",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"5599281","zampano","A lot of this criticism is also assuming everyone is using their own computers. At a couple of places I've worked, we could store our files on a network drive but we got a fresh…",{"value":100,"source":60,"evidence":101},"Solves a real pain of managing contact forms",[102,106],{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"5599081","jggonz","This is great. Building forms and managing email is indeed painful. Sometimes you just want to have a form pop up and a message sent. I personally dislike mailto links because I…",{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"5599130","mrpollo","Seems like people here are more inclined to use mailto links and I agree since sending from our mail app gives us a clearer path onto whats going on and certainty that the email…",[111,126,137,148],{"value":112,"source":60,"evidence":113},"Breaks mailto links that users prefer",[114,118,122],{"id":115,"by":116,"text":117},"5598953","ComputerGuru","I don't know about you guys, but I am always absolutely relieved to see a mailto link rather than a contact form when attempting to reach someone. One click and it opens in my…",{"id":119,"by":120,"text":121},"5598994","StavrosK","I'll agree with this. I don't know why everyone doesn't use mailto links, since they work better than any other solution. I also don't know why someone would want to cripple them…",{"id":123,"by":124,"text":125},"5598999","solox3","What, why would you intentionally break my freedom to use any mail client I want? If I really want to send an email from the browser, I would have just used an extension that…",{"value":127,"source":60,"evidence":128},"Landing page unclear about what it does",[129,133],{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"5598957","orangethirty","Say I'm some clueless business guy. Somebody says \"hey, you gotta check out square send\". I visit your site. And I can't figure out what is it that you do or in what way do I…",{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"5599575","codewright","I'm a programmer, couldn't figure it out from the landing page. Fix your landing page.",{"value":138,"source":60,"evidence":139},"Mailto-link fallback or email address should be shown",[140,141,144],{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},{"id":142,"by":120,"text":143},"5599059","Hey waterapp, no, it was pretty clear from the homepage and the grandparent's comment. It's a useful product for people who want a contact form they don't have to manage (it'll…",{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"5599220","alpb","$3\u002Fmo for something that won't last forever, I can't change design, doesn't show my email address as an alternative in the same window. And please stop using word 'Square', it is…",{"value":149,"source":60,"evidence":150},"Competes with Wufoo, Jotform and similar form tools",[151,155],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"5599091","1123581321","I've been here before I knew anything about web programming. This is a need real site owners have. And, I've watched people stumble on mailto links because an unconfigured mail…",{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"5599360","MichaelApproved","\"Indeed, I could be wrong.\" I might be the one who was wrong. As a programmer, this seems like a small solution that's already been solved with wufoo, contact forms 7 and the…",[160,165,176,183],{"value":161,"source":60,"evidence":162},"Show the email address and a mailto option in the widget",[163,164],{"id":142,"by":120,"text":143},{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},{"value":166,"source":60,"evidence":167},"Add a cancel or close button",[168,172],{"id":169,"by":170,"text":171},"5599282","democracy","The widget might be useful, well done! Any plans to add other languages? Also please add a 'cancel' or 'close' button to the form...",{"id":173,"by":174,"text":175},"5599484","coherentpony","It'd be a good idea to have a 'cancel' button on the pop-up.",{"value":177,"source":60,"evidence":178},"Copy of sent messages for the sender",[179],{"id":180,"by":181,"text":182},"5599751","vxNsr","Maybe offer an option to have the email sent to me too. That way I know that even if I don't get a reply I still have a record\u002Fcopy of the email.",{"value":184,"source":60,"evidence":185},"WordPress plugin",[186],{"id":187,"by":157,"text":188},"5599838","My last comment tends to agree with you. It seems there are many people who need this solution even with the products already out there. I hope you find lots of them and solve…",[190,194],{"value":191,"source":60,"evidence":192},"How is spam handled",[193],{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},{"value":195,"source":60,"evidence":196},"Why this beats a regular contact form",[197,201],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"5599160","volandovengo","Hey guys - congrats on the product launch! I'm really confused though. How is this better than an email form?",{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"5598996","weisser","In what situation would someone prefer a contact form over a mailto link that opens in their mail app (or, in my case, Gmail in the browser)?",[206,210],{"value":207,"source":60,"evidence":208},"Wufoo, Jotform, Google Forms",[209],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},{"value":211,"source":60,"evidence":212},"Contact Form 7",[213],{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},{"comments":33,"answered":41,"key":215},[216,217,220],{"id":56,"text":57},{"id":218,"text":219},"5599485","Hello CCs, we're definitely going to be this. 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