[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":369},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-5782495":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":28,"sentiment":29,"stance_mix":30,"scored_comments":34,"aspects":35,"strip":46,"post_text":49,"what":50,"said":104,"maker_in_thread":215,"shape":224,"grid":227,"attempts":323,"same_week":333,"maker_shows":48,"maker_hidden":362,"reader_version":363,"card":364},"5782495","Goodbye Old Editor","Reinventing coding with the cloud","title","Show HN: Goodbye Old Editor – Reinventing coding with the cloud","https:\u002F\u002Ffriendco.de\u002F","friendco.de","friendcode",1369772545,2013,68,41,369,1739,22,"notable","dev_tools","cloud code editor","web_app",[24,25,26,27],"cloud ide","online code editor","remote pair programming","github integration","mixed",-0.07,{"positive":31,"neutral":32,"mixed":31,"critical":33},4,12,6,26,{"execution":36,"idea":38,"privacy":41,"docs":42,"performance":43,"pricing":44,"design":45},{"positive":37,"critical":31},0,{"positive":39,"critical":40},1,2,{"positive":37,"critical":37},{"positive":37,"critical":37},{"positive":37,"critical":37},{"positive":39,"critical":37},{"positive":37,"critical":37},[47,37,39,37,48,39,47,37,47,47,37,47,47,37,47,47,37,39,39,37,47,37,47,48,47,37,37,39,47,37,47,47,47,37,47,37,48,48,37,39],3,5,null,{"problem":51,"audience":61,"pricing":66,"motivation":72,"time_to_build":49,"stack":78,"openness":101,"stage":102,"team_size":103},{"value":52,"source":53,"evidence":54},"Setting up coding environments locally is hassle; cloud editor removes local setup","maker",[55,58],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},"5783149","No offence taken. That's perfectly understandable. There are quite a few advantages to cloud based solutions, a major one being \"simplicity\", by that I mean that they're easy to…",{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},"5783199","I believe there are advantages and disadvantages to cloud based solutions, objectively the advantages that we offer are the following: - Easy setup and update (all you need to do…",{"value":62,"source":53,"evidence":63},"Beginners and developers who want easy setup and pair programming",[64,65],{"id":56,"by":11,"text":57},{"id":59,"by":11,"text":60},{"value":67,"source":53,"evidence":68},"Free during beta; free for individuals, paid tiers for teams and companies planned",[69],{"id":70,"by":11,"text":71},"5783089","Thanks, happy to hear that you like it. We do have a business model and multiple possible revenue streams. The most obvious one being freemium. 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I've been trying all morning, and do not stop to amaze me.",{"id":124,"by":125,"text":126},"5783045","dreyfiz","This looks great. When will you shut up and start taking my money? I'm worried of getting too attached, that this beautiful piece of work looks like it has no business model.",[128,138,144],{"value":129,"source":81,"evidence":130},"Missing vim\u002Femacs-style features such as autocomplete and refactoring",[131,134],{"id":132,"by":115,"text":133},"5782771","After taking a look I want to ask about a few features I would expect to say goodbye to my \"old\" editor (I actually just migrated from VIM to Emacs). Are they there, or are they…",{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"5784259","__xtrimsky","Few things needed for me before I even consider the change: PS: I am a PHP developer using Netbeans - Autocomplete (for function names, vars and methods) - Control + Click on a…",{"value":139,"source":81,"evidence":140},"Browser limits and preference for native apps",[141],{"id":142,"by":111,"text":143},"5783043","Are you sure that you like the idea of in-browser editors? The only feature that I see as useful is the \"zero deployment\u002Fany device\" and I can't imagine that feature coming in…",{"value":145,"source":81,"evidence":146},"Requests access to private GitHub repos by default",[147],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},"5783293","michaelmior","This looks pretty cool and I'm going to check it out, but I'm not signing up with GitHub since you ask for access to my private repos by default. 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I'd kill for the ability to toss some file on a webserver & use it to edit files locally..",{"value":169,"source":81,"evidence":170},"Opt-in GitHub private repo access",[171],{"id":148,"by":149,"text":150},[173,180,187],{"value":174,"source":81,"evidence":175},"How does it differ from Cloud9?",[176],{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},"5783191","james33","What is different about this from Cloud9 (genuinely interested in the answer)?",{"value":181,"source":81,"evidence":182},"What is the pricing structure?",[183],{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"5783036","bsimpson","I'd like to see the pricing structure before I give you any data (including my Google\u002FFB\u002FGH credentials).",{"value":188,"source":81,"evidence":189},"Is each app run in a new virtual machine?",[190],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},[192,200,211],{"value":193,"source":81,"evidence":194},"Cloud9",[195,199],{"id":196,"by":197,"text":198},"5783291","martin-adams","Cloud9 IDE? https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fajaxorg\u002Fcloud9\u002F",{"id":177,"by":178,"text":179},{"value":201,"source":81,"evidence":202},"Koding",[203,207],{"id":204,"by":205,"text":206},"5783205","yesimahuman","Nice work! Have you played with Koding.com at all? This is very similar and seems to be a space that is heating up. I will definitely give this a shot. One quick piece of…",{"id":208,"by":209,"text":210},"5783279","alpb","Have you seen https:\u002F\u002Fkoding.com\u002F ?",{"value":212,"source":81,"evidence":213},"Vim and Emacs",[214],{"id":132,"by":115,"text":133},{"comments":216,"answered":217,"key":218},13,8,[219,222,223],{"id":220,"text":221},"5782889","Thanks, that's good feedback. We're in beta now. 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