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If the idea you pitch receives over 200* \"upboat\"s (consented would-be users) within one week, you get the whole emailing list of all those who upboat'd it. If not, you get nothing. This is helpful for those who have ideas for side-projects, but lack the strong-enough incentive to get to work and just hack something together. Should you put up an idea you came up with, and in a week it g",{"problem":48,"audience":54,"pricing":9,"motivation":58,"time_to_build":62,"stack":69,"openness":80,"stage":81,"team_size":82},{"value":49,"source":50,"evidence":51},"Gives idea authors social proof and a ready user list before building a side project.","maker",[52],{"id":53},"post",{"value":55,"source":50,"evidence":56},"People with side-project ideas and early adopters willing to support them.",[57],{"id":53},{"value":59,"source":50,"evidence":60},"Built at Angelhack hackathon to get enough upboats to keep working on it.",[61],{"id":53},{"value":63,"source":50,"evidence":64},"24 hours",[65,66],{"id":53},{"id":67,"by":10,"text":68},"5916826","1. Good call. 2. A widget is an awesome idea. Move aside, LaunchRock! 3. You're the man. Thanks! Monetizing? Apps aren't expensive, and if it provides value to a community I…",[70,76],{"value":71,"source":50,"evidence":72},"GitHub OAuth",[73],{"id":74,"by":10,"text":75},"5916445","I just need enough permissions to know that you have > 0 repos, public or private. I didn't see anything between just-email and all-the-things in their oauth docs, but I might've…",{"value":77,"source":50,"evidence":78},"AngelList auth",[79],{"id":53},"unknown","launched","solo",{"praise":84,"objections":108,"requests":134,"questions":170,"alternatives":185},[85,101],{"value":86,"source":87,"evidence":88},"Creative idea and impressive build speed in 24 hours","commenter",[89,93,97],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"5916381","krichman","My first reaction was that this is creative and interesting. Impressive that you did it in 24 hours. The validation use case for Upboat makes sense... but it seems strictly…",{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"5916253","avalaunch","On the registration popup, it says 500 users required. I had nearly this exact idea before. Actually that's where my username Avalaunch comes from - \"launch your new idea with an…",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"5916260","songzme","I just signed up for an account and posted an idea! As a developer, I think this is a great tool to get users before deciding to sink into a project that might never see the…",{"value":102,"source":87,"evidence":103},"Useful, generous feedback from the community",[104],{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"5916505","pkfrank","This is the type of rock-solid and generous advice that makes HN so valuable.",[109,117,124],{"value":110,"source":87,"evidence":111},"Upvotes are worth less than real payments like Kickstarter",[112,113],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"5925868","geedy","I had a similar idea a couple of months ago, but the issue I found with it is that a virtual \"vote\" for a product is borderline worthless. When an idea is funded on Kickstarter,…",{"value":118,"source":87,"evidence":119},"Validation by a startup-enthusiast community doesn't reflect real customers",[120],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"5917653","toumhi","Congrats on shipping! However: You don't prove the validity of a startup idea by asking a community of startup enthusiasts whether they think it's valid (except if it's an idea…",{"value":125,"source":87,"evidence":126},"GitHub OAuth requested permissions too broad",[127,131],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"5916439","vec","I think your github oauth request is a bit broad: ``` The app Upboat will be able to: * Read your public information. * Read your private email addresses. * Update your public…",{"id":132,"by":129,"text":133},"5916510","No, but even read only access to private repos is a problem. A lot of that code belongs to my employer and I can't in good conscience grant access to it even if I want to. I'm…",[135,139,153,163],{"value":136,"source":87,"evidence":137},"Let idea authors set the upboat threshold",[138],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},{"value":140,"source":87,"evidence":141},"Login with Google, GitHub or other non-Facebook option",[142,146,150],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"5917147","Chris2048","> Add login by Facebook God no, anything but facebook. Github or google would be better.",{"id":147,"by":148,"text":149},"5917939","donutdan4114","Nice looking site. My biggest nit-pick with any site is that I don't want another account on another site. So either FB\u002FTwitter\u002FGitHub\u002FPersona\u002FGoogle sign-in would be fantastical.",{"id":151,"by":95,"text":152},"5917186","This is a site for validating ideas. Unless all of the ideas are geared towards the developer community, Github isn't a good option. You can hate on Facebook all you like but a…",{"value":154,"source":87,"evidence":155},"Charge or pledge money rather than just email",[156,160],{"id":157,"by":158,"text":159},"5916581","shimms","Could also extend it to include a charge for the first month's usage. Once the requisite number of upboats is met, the funds can be transferred to the idea holder, less a clip of…",{"id":161,"by":95,"text":162},"5916396","I think for this to work he needs to aim at the sweet spot that Kickstarter doesn't serve: new businesses and business services. And he could charge per email received. He…",{"value":164,"source":87,"evidence":165},"Let authors add feedback questions and their own styling",[166],{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"5916817","Felix21","Interestingly I was working on this as well. It was called \"should I Build it?\" and the idea is if enough people vote YES (you decide how many people are enough), then you build…",[171,178],{"value":172,"source":87,"evidence":173},"What is the user incentive for upboating?",[174],{"id":175,"by":176,"text":177},"5916801","revx","I'm just curious what the user's incentive for using upboat is? Edit: I mean, I'm not a startup owner, but I visited the site and couldn't figure out why I would want to do this,…",{"value":179,"source":87,"evidence":180},"Who benefits from withholding contact info until threshold?",[181],{"id":182,"by":183,"text":184},"5919346","fxthea","Who's benefiting from not releasing contact information until a certain threshold is met?",[186,190,194,201],{"value":187,"source":87,"evidence":188},"Kickstarter",[189],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},{"value":191,"source":87,"evidence":192},"LaunchRock",[193],{"id":67,"by":10,"text":68},{"value":195,"source":87,"evidence":196},"Firespotting",[197],{"id":198,"by":199,"text":200},"5916377","newernpguy","very interesting concept. The karma based version at http:\u002F\u002Ffirespotting.com gets many good ideas. 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