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I feel like the two-week development cycle really hinders your ability to conduct valuable A\u002FB tests with your users in time to…",{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"5941090","nancyhua","You're right the app store is a barrier but people still do it. That's one of the advantages of our product, that you can start and stop experiments so you can put in as many…",{"value":62,"source":63,"evidence":64},"Mobile app developers","inferred",[65,69],{"id":66,"by":67,"text":68},"5940055","sync","For folks interested in mobile A\u002FB testing, also see an open-source alternative by Clutch: https:\u002F\u002Fgithub.com\u002Fclutchio",{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"5940394","xoail","I would like to see some code examples.",{"value":74,"source":51,"evidence":75},"Free to try; pricing not announced; special deal for early adopters offered by email",[76,80],{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},"5940513","Rezo","I couldn't find any pricing information even after registering. 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