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For example, Instagram has an estimated value of ~$4.6 Billion, but it's actual value (based on purchase by FB) is ~$1 Billion. The page…",[],"unknown","launched","company",{"praise":61,"objections":81,"requests":119,"questions":128,"alternatives":137},[62],{"value":63,"source":64,"evidence":65},"Interesting data, useful resource, keyword graphs are new","commenter",[66,70,74,77],{"id":67,"by":68,"text":69},"6171403","soup10","Dunno how accurate this is for the biggest and free apps, but I own a medium size paid app and it seems reasonable. The search\u002Fkeyword graphs they have are interesting too,…",{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"6171484","kranner","Apparently there's a lot more money in Bible apps than I had imagined. If this ordering is close to being accurate, it's a wonderful resource to reflect on to understand what…",{"id":75,"by":72,"text":76},"6171675","Thanks for this resource!",{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},"6171624","irollboozers","Looks great! One curious thing I'd be interested to see is the sum of the values of all the apps and how it compares with Apple's estimates.",[82,90,109],{"value":83,"source":64,"evidence":84},"Valuation methodology is secret and unclear",[85,86],{"id":53,"by":54,"text":55},{"id":87,"by":88,"text":89},"6171385","megablast","Not sure why this is secret. A formula would be useful, but I guess this is just a fun estimate.",{"value":91,"source":64,"evidence":92},"Some valuations seem inaccurate, e.g. Instagram and games",[93,97,101,105],{"id":94,"by":95,"text":96},"6172158","scholia","Instagram was presumably worth $1 billion when Facebook bought it 16 months ago. That doesn't tell you what it would be worth today.",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"6171607","blowski","Some of the valuations raise a bit of an eyebrow - e.g. BatteryHD valued at nearly $41M. * In the case of apps that are native versions of web services (e.g. Flickr, Twitter)…",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"6171796","codeka","I wouldn't put any games in the top ten (or even top 50). I don't see Candy Crush or Clash of Clans being around six months from now, so I don't see how it could be worth…",{"id":106,"by":107,"text":108},"6171724","k-mcgrady","Not exactly sure how the valuations are calculated but they don't seem too accurate. I looked at my own apps and some that should have appeared didn't, others that shouldn't have…",{"value":110,"source":64,"evidence":111},"Valuations of big apps seem inconsistent, e.g. Pandora vs Google Search",[112,116],{"id":113,"by":114,"text":115},"6171791","bruceboughton","So: - Pandora's app is worth $1.7bn - Google's Search app is only worth $0.7bn Riiiiight...",{"id":117,"by":114,"text":118},"6171963","Pandora existed before it had an app so I'm not sure it would be out of business. 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