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We might benefit from introducing some specialized vertical pages, and we'll provide some more color on who's doing the…",{"value":66,"source":67,"evidence":68},"$800 and $2000 monthly plans, with hourly research work.","commenter",[69,73,77],{"id":70,"by":71,"text":72},"6493660","Udo","Thanks for clearing that up, because I assumed that by \"lead\" you mean a contact who is already interested and primed. Maybe I have been using the word incorrectly for a long…",{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},"6493911","clarky07","Very interesting idea, but lots of red flags here. 1. This isn't user acquisition. Nothing even close to it. User acquisition would be getting users. This is at best getting…",{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},"6493231","jeromeparadis","I find the service interesting. But, I suppose lead research is done through outsourcing somewhere cheap because at 800$ per month for 20hrs\u002Fweek, how can they make a profit? 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Is it primarily for B2B enterprise leads of can it scale…",{"id":78,"by":79,"text":80},[100,112,121,130],{"value":101,"source":67,"evidence":102},"Not really user acquisition; delivers leads, not users",[103,104,108],{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},{"id":105,"by":106,"text":107},"6492842","ahulak","The tagline for show HN sounds really interesting, but going to your site makes it very clear that you don't understand how the lead market actually works. People don't pay for…",{"id":109,"by":110,"text":111},"6491671","t0","Isn't there a difference between user acquisiton as a service and prospecting as a service? Clicking this link, I thought you did the whole sales process.",{"value":113,"source":67,"evidence":114},"Pricing per hour seems unprofitable or unclear versus per-lead pricing",[115,116,120],{"id":74,"by":75,"text":76},{"id":117,"by":118,"text":119},"6492743","gsharma","IMO the content on the site does not reflect it to be 'user acquisition as a service.' 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