[{"data":1,"prerenderedAt":491},["ShallowReactive",2],{"project-6617063":3},{"id":4,"name":5,"line":6,"line_source":7,"title":8,"url":9,"domain":10,"maker":11,"posted_at":12,"year":13,"points":14,"comments":15,"rank_in_year":16,"shown_in_year":17,"top":18,"tier":19,"category":20,"subcategory":21,"format":22,"keywords":23,"reception":27,"sentiment":28,"stance_mix":29,"scored_comments":33,"aspects":34,"strip":47,"post_text":48,"what":49,"said":84,"maker_in_thread":205,"shape":208,"grid":211,"attempts":448,"same_week":453,"maker_shows":38,"maker_hidden":483,"reader_version":484,"card":485},"6617063","A Github for writers?","Not my project, but I'm using it.","maker","Show HN: A Github for writers?","http:\u002F\u002Fwww.penflip.com\u002F","penflip.com","petervandijck",1382787282,2013,181,81,83,1739,5,"notable","productivity","collaborative writing","web_app",[21,24,25,26],"git for writers","version control","markdown editor","curious",-0.133,{"positive":30,"neutral":31,"mixed":18,"critical":32},9,30,14,58,{"idea":35,"design":37,"execution":40,"pricing":42,"docs":44,"performance":45,"privacy":46},{"positive":36,"critical":36},4,{"positive":38,"critical":39},3,2,{"positive":41,"critical":36},0,{"positive":43,"critical":43},1,{"positive":41,"critical":43},{"positive":41,"critical":43},{"positive":41,"critical":43},[38,38,41,18,43,43,43,38,38,38,43,43,38,38,38,18,38,41,38,41,38,38,41,43,43,38,18,38,43,38,18,38,18,43,41,18,38,43,43,18],null,{"problem":50,"audience":66,"pricing":74,"motivation":48,"time_to_build":48,"stack":81,"openness":82,"stage":83,"team_size":82},{"value":51,"source":52,"evidence":53},"Collaborative writing and version control for writers without using git directly","inferred",[54,58,62],{"id":55,"by":56,"text":57},"6619471","guynamedloren","> Why not just keep your files in git? Use a git GUI if the command line is intimidating to writers. That way you don't have to create a brand new writing tool. That's exactly…",{"id":59,"by":60,"text":61},"6617370","jasonkolb","Why not just keep your files in git? Use a git GUI if the command line is intimidating to writers. That way you don't have to create a brand new writing tool. I keep scrivener…",{"id":63,"by":64,"text":65},"6617481","co_pl_te","Git is certainly capable of this, but I don't think that makes a service like Penflip that focuses specifically on collaborative writing superfluous. 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At least have a short video that showcases the MVP..",{"value":132,"source":76,"evidence":133},"Most writers won't use git",[134],{"id":135,"by":136,"text":137},"6617377","arb99","Most writers won't want to use git.",[139,146,153],{"value":140,"source":76,"evidence":141},"Side-by-side revision view and comments",[142],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},"6617711","antjanus","Novel writer here (unpublished but I've written several books, writing my next one in a month). The site looks intriguing but yeah, I agree with your points: 1. I do write in…",{"value":147,"source":76,"evidence":148},"Folders and file import for projects",[149],{"id":150,"by":151,"text":152},"6620504","baby","quick reply to feedback, that's what we appreciate, thank you for this! Just my 2 cents: * Why can't I use \",\" in my project name? 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I'm not sure about the other features you mentioned.",{"value":188,"source":76,"evidence":189},"Google Docs",[190],{"id":191,"by":192,"text":193},"6617224","ghosttie","How is this different from Google Docs?",{"value":195,"source":76,"evidence":196},"Scrivener",[197],{"id":143,"by":144,"text":145},{"value":199,"source":76,"evidence":200},"prose.io",[201],{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"6617170","Blahah","It looks a lot like the prose.io interface. 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