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Also it definitely relieves common pain points you have while using…",{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},"7160289","Thanks. We believe this can replace a subset of what people do with Skype—quick calls with friends and teammates. The hubot script will let people do audio conference on chat…",{"value":63,"source":54,"evidence":64},"Friends, teammates and people wanting to call strangers quickly",[65,66],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},{"value":68,"source":54,"evidence":69},"Make a simpler alternative to Skype for quick calls",[70,71],{"id":57,"by":11,"text":58},{"id":72,"by":11,"text":73},"7160236","At least, I had a problem with \"video\" calls. It's often too cumbersome and gives too much info about the visual aspect of myself when it's not necessary and when I don't want it…",[75,83,87,94],{"value":76,"source":77,"evidence":78},"Python Flask","commenter",[79],{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},"7160392","tsudot","Yup. It's a flask app which can be self hosted on any instance of yours and it uses redis to store conference mappings.",{"value":84,"source":77,"evidence":85},"Redis",[86],{"id":80,"by":81,"text":82},{"value":88,"source":77,"evidence":89},"Heroku",[90],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},"7160280","jamestomasino","Any plans for non-heroku build instructions? Is there really much to it that Heroku is doing that can't be easily replicated, or was that just for speed of deployment? I'd love…",{"value":95,"source":77,"evidence":96},"Plivo cloud service",[97,101],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"7161101","chrissnell","So, this tool is OSS but appears to be dependent on a commercial service. Is there any chance that Plivo will open source the necessary bits to enable true standalone operation?…",{"id":102,"by":103,"text":104},"7161154","bevenky","Plivo WebSDK (http:\u002F\u002Fplivo.com\u002Fvoip-sdk\u002F) allows graceful fallback to Flash for non WebRTC browsers. WebRTC alone won't run on all browsers!","open_source","launched","team",{"praise":109,"objections":124,"requests":173,"questions":200,"alternatives":215},[110,117],{"value":111,"source":77,"evidence":112},"Clean, easy UX that non-technical users can use",[113],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"7160653","BorisMelnik","Love it, UX is beautifully elegant (only thing that ruins it is the Adobe Flash permission popup which looks like it is from Windows 3.1) This is something I feel as though I…",{"value":118,"source":77,"evidence":119},"Useful alternative to Skype's install and signup friction",[120],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"7160249","russell_h","I just saw a presentation by tsudot about this, where he mentioned a pretty cool use case for this: they've got Hubot in their team's channel set up so they can just say…",[125,137,151,162],{"value":126,"source":77,"evidence":127},"Depends on a commercial Plivo service, so not truly standalone open source",[128,129,133],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},"7161113","alecsmart1","I agree. I thought it was completely open-source. What's the use of open sourcing just a part of the code and forcing users to use a Plivo account to use the service (even if you…",{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"7160378","rwaldron","Open Wash.",{"value":138,"source":77,"evidence":139},"Uses Flash fallback in non-Chrome browsers",[140,144,148],{"id":141,"by":142,"text":143},"7160208","brongondwana","Oh - flash. No thanks.",{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"7161193","bowlofpetunias","Flash and voice only. This is really extremely misleading. I do not understand where the upvotes come from. The project may be interesting, but the headline is borderline sleazy.…",{"id":149,"by":81,"text":150},"7161210","Try the app in Chrome, which uses HTML5 audio. Flash is for other browsers with graceful fallback. As Firefox and other browsers support and stabilize HTML5 audio a.k.a. 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I'd be impressed when someone gets VOIP working on WebRTC. i.e. supporting SIP logins. I tried Doubango Telecom and it didn't work.",[174,179,189,196],{"value":175,"source":77,"evidence":176},"Release the Plivo parts so it runs standalone",[177,178],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"id":130,"by":131,"text":132},{"value":180,"source":77,"evidence":181},"Use WebRTC adapter shim for cross-browser support",[182,186],{"id":183,"by":184,"text":185},"7161252","vr000m","it should be easy for the devs' to add the interop shim for WebRTC to make it work in both Firefox and Chrome:…",{"id":187,"by":184,"text":188},"7161250","they should use https:\u002F\u002Fcode.google.com\u002Fp\u002Fwebrtc\u002Fsource\u002Fbrowse\u002Fstable\u002Fsamples\u002Fjs\u002Fbase\u002Fadapter.js to make it work for both browsers.",{"value":190,"source":77,"evidence":191},"Show who is talking",[192],{"id":193,"by":194,"text":195},"7160771","homakov","1. how to know who's talking? 2. when you add video?",{"value":197,"source":77,"evidence":198},"Non-Heroku self-hosting instructions",[199],{"id":91,"by":92,"text":93},[201,208],{"value":202,"source":77,"evidence":203},"Can it run on a VPN without internet access?",[204],{"id":205,"by":206,"text":207},"7164792","e12e","Am I correct in assuming this (and none of the alternatives posted) doesn't allow hosting on a VPN (not connected to the internet)?",{"value":209,"source":77,"evidence":210},"Does it send mic\u002Fcamera access to s3.amazonaws.com?",[211,212],{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},{"id":213,"by":81,"text":214},"7161206","This uses HTML5 audio on Chrome and falls back to Flash on other browser. The WebSDK is currently hosted on s3 and hence the request. Will fix this.",[216,222,229,236,243],{"value":217,"source":77,"evidence":218},"appear.in",[219],{"id":220,"by":142,"text":221},"7160183","Have you checked out https:\u002F\u002Fappear.in\u002F ? Looks like you're not the only people playing in this space right now. I've used appear.in sucessfully with a 6 person teleconference on…",{"value":223,"source":77,"evidence":224},"talky.io \u002F SimpleWebRTC",[225],{"id":226,"by":227,"text":228},"7160266","jeena","Exactly my thought, and I don't unbderstand it. WebRTC solutions work in all browsers (but IE). Like for example https:\u002F\u002Ftalky.io\u002F which is also open source:…",{"value":230,"source":77,"evidence":231},"meet.jit.si",[232],{"id":233,"by":234,"text":235},"7160432","_Soulou","http:\u002F\u002Fmeet.jit.si is alive since last year it's open source. It works well! Give it a try",{"value":237,"source":77,"evidence":238},"OpenTokRTC",[239],{"id":240,"by":241,"text":242},"7160313","songzme","Good job Kunal and team Plivio! If anyone is looking for a audio+video demo that works similarly, I built http:\u002F\u002FOpenTokRTC.com and the code is on github at…",{"value":244,"source":77,"evidence":245},"echoplex.us",[246],{"id":247,"by":248,"text":249},"7160005","arcameron","If you're interested in this, please also check out https:\u002F\u002Fechoplex.us :)",{"comments":49,"answered":39,"key":251},[252,255,256],{"id":253,"text":254},"7160354","Thanks Song. 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