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It's really just an entirely different approach. We’re not building another expense tracker (no offense - some people just need to track expenses). We believe…",{"id":60,"by":11,"text":61},"7219077","Hey we're Omar Josh & Ted, the founders of Abacus — let us know if you have any questions! Happy to discuss payment processing, ACH, why expense reports suck, etc.",{"value":63,"source":53,"evidence":64},"Small businesses with 5-100 employees",[65,68],{"id":66,"by":57,"text":67},"7219892","Thanks! Firstly, glad you're no longer having to suffer through that, haha. It's a great point you bring up - we're trying stay focused on serving businesses with 5-100 employees…",{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},"7220252","Thanks Trey! Most of our early customers are ~5-100 employee companies. Right now most of our customers are other startups because that's who we know, but we're excited to expand…",{"value":72,"source":53,"evidence":73},"Pay only for users who submit expenses",[74],{"id":75,"by":11,"text":76},"7220007","Thanks! Yea it was important to us that our pricing be 'pay only for what you use' because there's greater utility when companies add everybody on their team.",[],"unknown","launched","team",{"praise":82,"objections":111,"requests":131,"questions":154,"alternatives":173},[83,103],{"value":84,"source":85,"evidence":86},"Fast, simple submission and reimbursement directly to bank","commenter",[87,91,95,99],{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"7219104","btrautsc","As the poor soul who covers finances at our startup I positively love Abacus - and I've craved a solution like this for years... expense reports, receipts, etc are a never ending…",{"id":92,"by":93,"text":94},"7219407","brianballan","I use Abacus and dig it. Super quick way to submit expense reports and actually get the money transfer happening in one step. Makes managing a small business that much easier.",{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"7220809","nicoles","I've been using Abacus for the last ~2 months, and it's been amazing. Thank you guys so much for making it! I'm so happy to not have to deal with expensify (or worse) anymore.…",{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},"7219702","gmartire","I think the best way to sum up Abacus is, \"Expensify, but way easier to use.\" The UX is only what you need and nothing else. It's goof proof and just works, that I feel is the…",{"value":104,"source":85,"evidence":105},"Easier to use than Expensify",[106,107],{"id":100,"by":101,"text":102},{"id":108,"by":109,"text":110},"7220053","jason_wang","I've been using Expensify for 2+ years and I just started using Abacus. The core value proposition of the two products are significantly different. 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If you're worried about an IRS audit it's important to have receipts (images) for transactions over $75, but for anything…",{"value":125,"source":85,"evidence":126},"Terms of service language about visiting the site is overbroad",[127],{"id":128,"by":129,"text":130},"7221520","protomyth","I'm curious about: https:\u002F\u002Fwww.abacus.com\u002Ftos \"BY REGISTERING FOR AND\u002FOR USING THE SERVICES IN ANY MANNER, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO VISITING OR BROWSING THE SITE, YOU AGREE…",[132,140,150],{"value":133,"source":53,"evidence":134},"Credit card and bank feed integration",[135,139],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"7219100","jhalickman","Great idea, right now we only support manually entered expenses but next up on our roadmap the ability to link in your credit card to do this exact thing.",{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},{"value":141,"source":85,"evidence":142},"GPS mileage tracking",[143,147],{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},"7220140","bane","I'm intrigued. We use expensify and it's been bar-none the easiest to use expense reporting system I've ever used. At my old startup we did everything via a pre-setup excel sheet…",{"id":148,"by":145,"text":149},"7220527","> Receipts aren't required. If you're worried about an IRS audit it's important to have receipts (images) for transactions over $75, but for anything under that it's up to the…",{"value":151,"source":53,"evidence":152},"Quickbooks and Xero sync",[153],{"id":69,"by":11,"text":70},[155,166],{"value":156,"source":85,"evidence":157},"How does it differ from Expensify and Concur",[158,162],{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},"7219254","wurzelgogerer","How is this different from expensify? Expensify uses the slogan \"Expense reports that don't suck.\" You are essentially trying to do the same thing here. What are your main…",{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},"7219297","ismaelc","Interesting! Is this similar to Concur?",{"value":167,"source":85,"evidence":168},"Is it available outside the US",[169],{"id":170,"by":171,"text":172},"7220615","darklajid","So, I'm currently (for roundabout 3 to 4 weeks) unable to submit my expense report. The reason? The regulation\u002Flaws changed in 2014 and the software my employer is using is not…",[174,179],{"value":175,"source":85,"evidence":176},"Expensify",[177,178],{"id":159,"by":160,"text":161},{"id":144,"by":145,"text":146},{"value":180,"source":85,"evidence":181},"Concur",[182,183,187],{"id":163,"by":164,"text":165},{"id":184,"by":185,"text":186},"7219698","dkoch","How do you compare to big players in the market like Concur, which has these features?",{"id":188,"by":189,"text":190},"7221441","sc00ter","concur.com - mostly with the mobile app, but the web app is also very usable.",{"comments":192,"answered":193,"key":194},14,8,[195,196,199],{"id":122,"text":123},{"id":197,"text":198},"7220754","> Being able to just shoot a photo of it with my phone might be enough? Yup, adding a photo of the receipt is part of expense creation in Abacus. 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