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And even when I switch to fullscreen actually (but I'd rather not).",{"id":119,"by":116,"text":120},"7322080","Hi, On the demo backend, if I click on \"download csv\" or \"get code\" I can't go back except if I unzoom (because the closing X is out of my browser window, and it's almost true in…",{"value":122,"source":78,"evidence":123},"Sorting leads to a blank javascript:null page",[124,128],{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"7321424","wdewind","When I click any sort I get brought to a blank page with javascript:null",{"id":129,"by":130,"text":131},"7321695","TazeTSchnitzel","Same issue here in Firefox",{"value":133,"source":78,"evidence":134},"No server-side spam filtering or validation",[135],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},"7322160","cooperx","What I want\u002Fneed is a more robust system to handle spam\u002Fserver side validation. i.e. filtering out known bad email addresses or domains, blocking IPs, blocking known spam phrases…",[140,144,150],{"value":141,"source":78,"evidence":142},"Spam and server-side validation filters",[143],{"id":136,"by":137,"text":138},{"value":145,"source":78,"evidence":146},"Self-hosted option",[147],{"id":148,"by":97,"text":149},"7322446","I love the concept, but I'd much prefer to self-host such a tool. 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