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The design is really clean and I really like the concept. Keep it up!",{"id":77,"by":78,"text":79},"7444314","deft","This is a really great idea although slightly evil. Could be quite useful though. Nice job!",{"value":81,"source":70,"evidence":82},"Useful for adding context to shared links",[83,87],{"id":84,"by":85,"text":86},"7444524","rkuykendall-com","I see your point, but I see it as providing context to the links. This is especially useful on Twitter where there is so little room for commentary. The message is not showing up…",{"id":88,"by":89,"text":90},"7444318","alizhd","Cool idea. I saw betakit using this the other day.",[92,106,121,128],{"value":93,"source":70,"evidence":94},"Clickjacking and framing other sites is a security concern",[95,99,102],{"id":96,"by":97,"text":98},"7444498","opendais","X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN https:\u002F\u002Fwww.owasp.org\u002Findex.php\u002FClickjacking I'm not seeing how encouraging end users to engage in behavior that sites specifically turn off for…",{"id":100,"by":97,"text":101},"7444603","I'm not. Marketing has a purpose like anything else. I'm more surprised and concerned by how few people commented on the fact it is relying on sites being vulnerable to…",{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"7444622","eliot_sykes","I'm not sure about this. Mmm. My gut feeling is I wouldn't feel too cool about using it, and I'd guess that if you gave news sites the chance to opt-in to being framed, not many…",{"value":107,"source":70,"evidence":108},"Annoying overlay degrades the user experience",[109,113,117],{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"7444468","incision","I'm a bit surprised at the amount of positive response. This impresses me as rather obnoxious, probably effective, but obnoxious. Something between the pop-over ad and the…",{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"7445168","electic","This is not good. Consumers will eventually recognize that snip.ly links offer annoying experiences and they would not click on them over time. 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You are what's wrong with the internet today.",[],[141,148],{"value":142,"source":70,"evidence":143},"Is it really free to use?",[144],{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"7444263","ASquare","I like this idea. Is it really free to use?",{"value":149,"source":70,"evidence":150},"Could the site owner sue over altered pages?",[151],{"id":152,"by":153,"text":154},"7444467","ds9","Does anyone know what court precedents there are for a site owner O. suing companies C. that present altered versions of O's site to third parties T, without consent from O?…",[156,163],{"value":157,"source":70,"evidence":158},"Other URL shorteners that add ads or interstitials",[159],{"id":160,"by":161,"text":162},"7444653","dangrossman","This is hardly the first site to frame another site. It's hardly the first link shortener to do so and add a message or ad in another frame or interstitial either. 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