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A few things that might not be as obvious: 1. Cars with Loans on them. This actually is a hassle, especially in states where the loan holder owns the…",{"id":61,"by":11,"text":62},"7534186","Great questions Josh, Dealer trade-in pricing generally uses a standard called \"black book\". They base the pricing on the type of car the the condition of the vehilce. The…",{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"7534951","nlh","Great idea - good luck guys! Related note for the HN community, while we're on the subject: Unless you have time & money to burn, you really should never never never trade your…",{"value":68,"source":55,"evidence":69},"Car owners selling a used car, currently in the Bay Area.",[70,74],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"7534499","afhsfsfdsss88","Most dealer trade offers are so low because they don't even keep your car on the lot, they sell it at auction...at wholesale prices. 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