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You might remember our last app, Card for Coin, where we were buying Starbucks for bitcoin. Well, here's the other side- we're looking forward to your feedback. The…",{"id":58,"by":59,"text":60},"7569456","source99","This is great. Why is there any limit to the amount of time I have to keep the \"bitcoin\u002Fdollars\" on the barcode? I'd rather load it up and use it when convinient.",{"id":62,"by":11,"text":63},"7569501","Mostly, I'm worried about trust. The thought was people might be worried that they paid their BTC for nothing. I'll chat with the guys about this, we definitely need to look into…",{"value":65,"source":52,"evidence":66},"Bitcoin users who buy coffee at Starbucks",[67],{"id":68,"by":11,"text":69},"7569541","We use the current Coinbase exchange rate. No margin on the exchange. We're trying to keep it simple \u002F focused on newer bitcoin users, but I can definitely flesh out the FAQ. 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That's what we're excited about.",[],"unknown","launched","team",{"praise":89,"objections":98,"requests":128,"questions":151,"alternatives":174},[90],{"value":91,"source":92,"evidence":93},"Useful service that works, card generation succeeded for some users","commenter",[94],{"id":95,"by":96,"text":97},"7569100","mmmmax","You need to send an email with the barcode and 25 minutes after that sweep the funds back...I've tried to use this twice and not seen my code. Update: refreshing the page seems…",[99,110,117],{"value":100,"source":92,"evidence":101},"10% discount is small versus bitcoin price volatility",[102,106],{"id":103,"by":104,"text":105},"7569979","stevewilhelm","The volatility of Bitcoin's exchange rate far out ways the ten percent discount.",{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"7570469","beedogs","At this point with btc volatility being what it is today, you could save or lose 10% just by standing in line.",{"value":111,"source":92,"evidence":112},"Legal risk as a money transmitter under FinCEN",[113],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"7568939","Xdes","Also about the service: is the website compliant with AML and KYC regulation? You might be acting as a money transmitter under FinCEN rules. Might want to consult a lawyer.",{"value":118,"source":92,"evidence":119},"Starbucks card reward program gives similar discount",[120,124],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"7569149","JshWright","If I use the Starbucks app, I get credit towards a free item (it works out to an 8.3% discount if you always buy the same thing). A 1.7% savings really isn't enough to interest…",{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},"7569259","PhrosTT","There's a Starbucks Gold Card (earned from 30 drinks in 12 months). https:\u002F\u002Fwww.starbucks.com\u002Fcard\u002Frewards This gives you every 13th drink free (1 per 12 = 8.3% discount). I…",[129,140],{"value":130,"source":92,"evidence":131},"Support for other coffee chains and indie shops",[132,136],{"id":133,"by":134,"text":135},"7568956","myrandomcomment","Could we please bring this to a coffee chain that makes good coffee? Peets or Philz?",{"id":137,"by":138,"text":139},"7569703","bcohen5055","Any plans for branching this out on the retailer side? 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If I show a barista a 3rd-party, non-Starbucks affiliated app, and ask them to scan it, will they do it? Or just look…",{"value":164,"source":92,"evidence":165},"Whether it works outside the US",[166,170],{"id":167,"by":168,"text":169},"7570089","josu","Can you use this service in Mexico or Canada? It doesn't seem to be covered anywhere, or maybe I haven't looked hard enough.",{"id":171,"by":172,"text":173},"7571767","facepalm","US only I assume?",[175],{"value":176,"source":92,"evidence":177},"Starbucks Gold Card rewards program",[178],{"id":125,"by":126,"text":127},{"comments":180,"answered":181,"key":182},31,15,[183,186,189],{"id":184,"text":185},"7569552","We aren't. EDIT: details Every users gets their own card to prevent tampering and crazy double-spend stuff.",{"id":187,"text":188},"7569563","Interesting idea! 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