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It seems like there is a small niche that still wants control over their data but everyone else seems ok with the…",{"id":57,"by":58,"text":59},"8173901","daigoba66","I consider it a plus. If I were developing a product like this, I'd build it for self hosting and charge a nominal cost plus yearly a maintenance\u002Fsupport subscription. Then you…",{"id":61,"by":62,"text":63},"8175020","stephenr","While some people will seemingly climb over their own mother in their rush to hand over their personal and business data to every man and his dog, some of us still have our…",{"value":65,"source":50,"evidence":66},"Small teams and companies wanting control of their data",[67,68,72],{"id":53,"by":54,"text":55},{"id":69,"by":70,"text":71},"8174266","BorisMelnik","I'm really impressed from what I see. 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After enabling it and reloading it takes more than 10 seconds to…",[89],{"value":90,"source":78,"evidence":91},"PHP",[92,93],{"id":81,"by":82,"text":83},{"id":94,"by":54,"text":95},"8173961","I skipped over the free part too. Makes sense to be free and self hosted but this would also be cool as a \"deploy to heroku\" (or whatever cloud PaaS provider officially supports…","open_source","launched","unknown",{"praise":100,"objections":115,"requests":144,"questions":153,"alternatives":169},[101,110],{"value":102,"source":78,"evidence":103},"Self-hosted and free, appealing for data control",[104,105,106],{"id":69,"by":70,"text":71},{"id":85,"by":86,"text":87},{"id":107,"by":108,"text":109},"8175137","jotm","Looks great, has potential: nice design, self hosted, responsive UI, open source. 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