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Here in the UK the bad tech recruiters are renowned for advertising…",{"id":60,"by":61,"text":62},"9171441","dccoolgai","Like the concept, but have some reservations. What happens when recruiters start using it and spamming me regardless of whether they have something that pays the figure in…",{"id":64,"by":65,"text":66},"9171548","Osiris","This happened to me. I said I'd only interview if the offer would be at least a certain amount. After going through the process, the offer was $15k lower than the recruiter had…",{"value":68,"source":53,"evidence":69},"Developers looking for jobs, and employers",[70,74],{"id":71,"by":72,"text":73},"9171596","otoburb","Developers only? Or are you just starting out with this role and plan to expand to others later? Do employers sign up as \"recruiters\"? I would think not since the word…",{"id":75,"by":76,"text":77},"9172294","xerophtye","I understand that this is your MVP and you are simply gauging the developer interest at the moment, but I would love to see what you are pitching to the employers. No, this is…",[79,86,93],{"value":80,"source":53,"evidence":81},"Node.js (Express, Passport)",[82],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},"9172458","Avalaxy","When I'm trying to sign up: Error: failed to find request token in session at Strategy.OAuthStrategy.authenticate…",{"value":87,"source":53,"evidence":88},"Firebase",[89],{"id":90,"by":91,"text":92},"9171399","flipp3r","\"firebase.js:18 FIREBASE WARNING: Specified Firebase has reached its Peak Connections limit. If you are the Firebase owner, consider upgrading.…",{"value":94,"source":53,"evidence":95},"LinkedIn OAuth login",[96,97],{"id":83,"by":84,"text":85},{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},"9171665","nsxwolf","I don't trust anything that is Linkedin-based. I find their privacy policy impossible to understand, and I would just assume at some point my employer will know that I've signed…","unknown","beta",{"praise":104,"objections":124,"requests":163,"questions":205,"alternatives":224},[105,117],{"value":106,"source":53,"evidence":107},"Clever idea that fixes recruiter problems",[108,109,113],{"id":56,"by":57,"text":58},{"id":110,"by":111,"text":112},"9172011","goofygrin","As a hiring manager here's my concerns\u002Fissues with the current process of hiring\u002Fusing a recruiter - recruiters don't screen well enough technically or personality wise -…",{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},"9171313","oglo","Liked the concept. It's like applying free market models for developers! But I'm curious about anonymity? How does it work?",{"value":118,"source":53,"evidence":119},"Clever name",[120],{"id":121,"by":122,"text":123},"9171377","ocdtrekkie","Heh, clever name (and reason for it).",[125,130,141,148,152],{"value":126,"source":53,"evidence":127},"Recruiters may spam or post fake jobs",[128,129],{"id":56,"by":57,"text":58},{"id":60,"by":61,"text":62},{"value":131,"source":53,"evidence":132},"Anonymity may not hold for niche profiles",[133,137],{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},"9172175","codingdave","I'm wary of this without knowing exactly how your profile would be anonymized. I work in a very small niche and even if the company names are hidden, just seeing a list of job…",{"id":138,"by":139,"text":140},"9172112","jwcrux","Unfortunately, it's likely that in many cases the anonymity won't be preserved simply due to the probability of multiple candidates having the exact same job experience. Take the…",{"value":142,"source":53,"evidence":143},"Current salary disclosure can be used against candidates",[144],{"id":145,"by":146,"text":147},"9171786","aasarava","Why is current salary relevant? In most cases, revealing your current salary will be used against you by the new employer, as it allows them to lower their offer if they had…",{"value":149,"source":53,"evidence":150},"Relies on LinkedIn login and privacy concerns",[151],{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"value":153,"source":53,"evidence":154},"Salary alone ignores total compensation and benefits",[155,159],{"id":156,"by":157,"text":158},"9171427","rb2k_","For a lot of companies, \"salary\" is usually a mixture of base salary, bonus and stock options\u002FRSUs. I guess there are also various perks (public transport ticket, food, ...), but…",{"id":160,"by":161,"text":162},"9172528","robalfonso","Salary is the wrong metric! For example, I don't want to see a job below 125K but a job is posted at 115K and they subsidize X where X is important to me personally....then that…",[164,179,187,198],{"value":165,"source":53,"evidence":166},"Add total compensation and location adjustment",[167,171,175],{"id":168,"by":169,"text":170},"9171709","cpwright","You should consider total compensation and salary vs. just a salary. If you're looking at finance, people will have requirements for both a base salary and the total…",{"id":172,"by":173,"text":174},"9171716","frak_your_couch","Great idea! I signed up, but I worry that there's no geographical adjustment for salaries. For instance, I make $200k and live in Cleveland. Even 20% more in NYC or SF is a very…",{"id":176,"by":177,"text":178},"9172089","alok-g","In my opinion, you should add total compensation right from the beginning. This is because (1) You would be capturing data from many people (hopefully) and it would be difficult…",{"value":180,"source":53,"evidence":181},"Email signup instead of LinkedIn",[182,186],{"id":183,"by":184,"text":185},"9172231","yellowapple","Please do. I'm not a LinkedIn user and I don't plan on changing that.",{"id":98,"by":99,"text":100},{"value":188,"source":53,"evidence":189},"Employer-side salary testing tool",[190,194],{"id":191,"by":192,"text":193},"9171915","acveilleux","Spin this around so a company can test the water with a salary range and desired qualifications and get a percent of candidate pool coverage... Basically what fraction of an…",{"id":195,"by":196,"text":197},"9172424","pc86","This would be huge. Having both used recruiters to find work and to find candidates, from the employer side it's one thing for a recruiter to say \"You need to raise your salary…",{"value":199,"source":53,"evidence":200},"Feedback on recruiters who lowball offers",[201],{"id":202,"by":203,"text":204},"9173259","s73v3r","Maybe I should be able to leave feedback on a position or a recruiter saying that, even though the job listing said they offered X, I was only offered Y. Maybe it would show some…",[206,211,218],{"value":207,"source":53,"evidence":208},"How is anonymity preserved?",[209,210],{"id":114,"by":115,"text":116},{"id":134,"by":135,"text":136},{"value":212,"source":53,"evidence":213},"How is this different from hired.com?",[214],{"id":215,"by":216,"text":217},"9171379","itsdrewmiller","How is this different from hired.com except that you reveal your current salary?",{"value":219,"source":53,"evidence":220},"How are employers verified?",[221],{"id":222,"by":76,"text":223},"9172312","Btw, Wouldn't a good anti-recruiter mechanism be that you only allow employer accounts when you verify that the user represents an actual company etc?",[225,229],{"value":226,"source":53,"evidence":227},"hired.com",[228],{"id":215,"by":216,"text":217},{"value":230,"source":53,"evidence":231},"White Truffle",[232],{"id":233,"by":234,"text":235},"9172749","david_shaw","Looks like an automated version of White Truffle. 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