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Music notation software: Web-based and Real-time collaboration

flat.io

#music notation#sheet music#score editor#collaborative music#midi export

207points
69comments
#129of 2,264 in 2016
Top 6%of 2016 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

9 positive, 14 neutral or asking, 8 mixed, 14 critical, out of 45 comments about the project. Thread score -0.05.

Idea: 4 for, 3 againstDesign: 1 for, 5 againstExecution: 1 for, 1 againstPerformance: 0 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 2 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Delightful, impressive execution and collaborative editing.

    From 3 comments
    • GitHub for music sheet. The execution of this app is just so delightful. Next up: Forks and pull requests? :)
      arturadib on HN
    • This is a very impressive piece of work. It's addressing a similar problem to my friend Adrian's project www.soundslice.com - the complexity of hosting interactive sheet music…
      simonw on HN
    • Wow! It's Etherpad for music scores. Very impressive and very useful to people like me who don't have the interest in purchasing or maintaining something like Sibelius but want…
      qq66 on HN
  • Easy to start writing without instruction.

    From 1 comment
    • As an electronic musicial (http://www.soundcloud.com/decklyn) I'll give you some feedback from years of hanging out in a DAW. I'll bring up my perspective on some points others…
      ninjakeyboard on HN
  • MIDI export prevents lock-in.

    From 1 comment
    • This is great and an idea I've toyed around with building. I think we'll eventually see web-based music composition and DAWs in the browser take off. As someone who's become used…
      joeyrobert on HN

Objections

  • Missing notation features and rudimentary typography.

    From 2 comments
    • So, I managed to import one of my compositions here: https://flat.io/score/56d88e7af9e84f623ce60fb0-sonata If anyone wants to test out collaborative editing, be my guest. Some…
      pervycreeper on HN
    • As someone who recently switched from academic music composition to a corporate job, this is really cool. I've used Finale in its various versions for over 6 years now, and it's…
      monsk on HN
  • Terms of service grant broad license over user content.

    From 2 comments
    • Just found the TOS while browsing. The link under "sign up" (leading to https://flat.io/legal) was the one I referred to as broken. ``` (...) you grant us a worldwide,…
      gnud on HN
    • As written, it applies to the "music, sounds, text or information that you make available or create whilst using the Service" and gives Flat a "worldwide, nonexclusive,…
      etjossem on HN
  • Scrolling in playback is laggy and annoying.

    From 3 comments
    • Initial thoughts after playing one popular score[0] in FF dev 46.0a2 (3/2). I can only see four measures per screen, which is fine. However, by the time it scrolls to the next…
      pc86 on HN
    • Agreed. The scrolling effect is really annoying and unnecessary for the task of actually displaying what's playing.
      barkingcat on HN
    • I'm a hobby pianist with occasional paid gigs. I'd love to use this to play along with scores. Here is my feedback purely from a playback perspective. I haven't tried entering /…
      verst on HN
  • Requires internet connection; offline version only planned.

    From 1 comment
    • Can someone remind me why i am supposed to need an internet connection to score a piece of music?
      laurentoget on HN
  • Landing page does not explain the product clearly.

    From 1 comment
    • How is a user supposed to find out what this site really does without putting in an email address and agreeing to terms of service? So many sites do this: > Cool Title! > Sign up…
      SamBam on HN

Requests

  • Piano roll view for MIDI input.

    From 2 comments
    • I'd like some way to write music like a piano roll or a pad system, or just some alternative to Western classical notation, which I find hard to translate to sounds in my head.
      qq66 on HN
    • We will probably release a piano roll view in order to simplify any MIDI input first, so stay tuned!
      cocoggu on HN
  • Better note entry and length editing, like a DAW.

    From 1 comment
    • As an electronic musicial (http://www.soundcloud.com/decklyn) I'll give you some feedback from years of hanging out in a DAW. I'll bring up my perspective on some points others…
      ninjakeyboard on HN
  • Demo videos or tutorial.

    From 2 comments
    • Looks tantalizing, but I couldn't find any demo videos, which would be crucial for understanding how it works.
      cpr on HN
    • I can't see how you can make such a comment while being efficient. When you're looking for some software, you don't want "X that does Y". There are already solutions (maybe hacky…
      logicrook on HN
  • Multiple systems per page and horizontal scrolling.

    From 1 comment
    • I'm a hobby pianist with occasional paid gigs. I'd love to use this to play along with scores. Here is my feedback purely from a playback perspective. I haven't tried entering /…
      verst on HN
  • Guitar tablature support.

    From 2 comments
    • This is great and an idea I've toyed around with building. I think we'll eventually see web-based music composition and DAWs in the browser take off. As someone who's become used…
      joeyrobert on HN
    • Is there a similar tool for guitar tablature (not guitar pro)? This is fantastic.
      kerryritter on HN

Questions

  • Is it legal to publish copyrighted music here?

    From 1 comment
    • Is there a reason to have a scroll at all? When seeing the pagination, I imagined the app's author thinking it would make people right in their element. However, realistically,…
      espadrine on HN
  • Can note values be rebound to keys?

    From 1 comment
    • As someone who recently switched from academic music composition to a corporate job, this is really cool. I've used Finale in its various versions for over 6 years now, and it's…
      monsk on HN

Alternatives named

  • Finale

    From 2 comments
    • Awesome jobs. It has been a long time, but in high school I was on nationally competive drumline and spent a lot of time with [Finale](http://www.finalemusic.com/products/),…
      nodesocket on HN
    • As someone who recently switched from academic music composition to a corporate job, this is really cool. I've used Finale in its various versions for over 6 years now, and it's…
      monsk on HN
  • Sibelius

    From 2 comments
    • Awesome jobs. It has been a long time, but in high school I was on nationally competive drumline and spent a lot of time with [Finale](http://www.finalemusic.com/products/),…
      nodesocket on HN
    • But why would someone use this instead of Finale, Sibelius, or even MuseScore or Lilypond, all of which are very much better at score editing? It's really not hard to email…
      TheOtherHobbes on HN
  • MuseScore

    From 1 comment
    • But why would someone use this instead of Finale, Sibelius, or even MuseScore or Lilypond, all of which are very much better at score editing? It's really not hard to email…
      TheOtherHobbes on HN
  • Lilypond

    From 2 comments
    • Just found the TOS while browsing. The link under "sign up" (leading to https://flat.io/legal) was the one I referred to as broken. ``` (...) you grant us a worldwide,…
      gnud on HN
    • Just use lilypond in a github repo. I guess that is too complicated ;)
      radarsat1 on HN
  • Soundslice

    From 1 comment
    • This is a very impressive piece of work. It's addressing a similar problem to my friend Adrian's project www.soundslice.com - the complexity of hosting interactive sheet music…
      simonw on HN

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