Minoca OS

Dev tools

operating system kernel

SHOW HN2016

168points
42comments
#186of 2,264 in 2016
Top 9%of 2016 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

2 positive, 8 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 7 critical, out of 17 comments about the project. Thread score -0.22.

Idea: 1 for, 3 againstDocs: 0 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 2 againstExecution: 1 for, 0 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Interesting project with a clean-slate approach

    From 2 comments
    • Is this a commercial product? If so, what's your business model? This looks really neat by the way.
      qz_ on HN
    • Interesting. How much "smaller" is this in practice than a stripped down Linux image?
      matsur on HN

Objections

  • Novel proprietary kernels are hard to make commercially viable

    From 1 comment
    • I suspect novel proprietary kernels are a very difficult business niche. I'm unaware of any new commercially viable OS kernel that has come along in the past decade...maybe even…
      SwellJoe on HN
  • Closed binary, so hard to trust without source

    From 2 comments
    • It looks like this is a closed binary blob. Disappointing, since I'm curious to see what exactly it does differently. I'm also not entirely sure why I would want to use this over…
      ori_b on HN
    • The problem is that as long as the kernel is proprietary, people have no reason to trust it to run that kind of hardware.
      cbd1984 on HN
  • No real-time guarantees yet

    From 1 comment
    • Not at the moment, but our interrupt overhead and number of background tasks is so low it's something we're thinking about. Is there a specific scenario you're trying to enable?
      EvanGr on HN
  • Download page lacks team and business details

    From 1 comment
    • That page is really missing a description who is maintaining it (who is the team, how big is it, where is it located?), especially if it is marketed as a commercial offer. I…
      Matthias247 on HN

Requests

  • Provide a way to try it in the browser

    From 1 comment
    • It would be really awesome if you could provide a quick and easy way to test it. If this is really so small one possibility would be to port to run on one of the many JavaScript…
      api on HN
  • Real-time guarantees for Raspberry Pi

    From 2 comments
    • Can it provide any real-time guarantees? The main reason why I would change OS on the Raspberry Pi 3 is to get real-time behavior.
      projektfu on HN
    • I don't mind the "heaviness" of Linux on the RPi but I cannot rely on its user-space interrupts for GPIO use from userland. Instead, I have to write kernel software or give up on…
      projektfu on HN
  • Clearer licensing and source access details

    From 2 comments
    • Just a quick review of the site - the "Product" page - shows a lite version and a pro. Lite has debugging symbols built in that can't be stripped. It is compiled at a lower…
      smhenderson on HN
    • (emphasis mine): > It says for Access to Source: Lite - Limited, Pro - Unlimited In the software world I'd consider anything less than BSD/MIT licensed source code limited.
      koolba on HN

Questions

  • What is the market niche versus Linux?

    From 2 comments
    • I suspect novel proprietary kernels are a very difficult business niche. I'm unaware of any new commercially viable OS kernel that has come along in the past decade...maybe even…
      SwellJoe on HN
    • It looks like this is a closed binary blob. Disappointing, since I'm curious to see what exactly it does differently. I'm also not entirely sure why I would want to use this over…
      ori_b on HN
  • Is it a commercial product and what is the business model?

    From 1 comment
    • Is this a commercial product? If so, what's your business model? This looks really neat by the way.
      qz_ on HN

Alternatives named

  • Linux

    From 1 comment
    • I suspect novel proprietary kernels are a very difficult business niche. I'm unaware of any new commercially viable OS kernel that has come along in the past decade...maybe even…
      SwellJoe on HN
  • QNX

    From 1 comment
    • QNX is a commercially successful micro-kernel being used in automotive industries.
      riyadparvez on HN
  • eCOS and RTEMS

    From 1 comment
    • People used to use eCOS and RTEMS for this stuff. Plenty of components available for each, too. Anyone wanting minimal OS should check them out.
      nickpsecurity on HN
  • VxWorks and Integrity

    From 1 comment
    • Yeah, but you need to design an OS from scratch to supported these hard realtime and safety requirements. There are a few ones out there (VxWorks, Integrity, ...). But the linked…
      Matthias247 on HN

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