ping

Security and privacy

geolocation

SHOW HN2016

78points
42comments
#494of 2,264 in 2016
Top 22%of 2016 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

3 positive, 3 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 23 critical, out of 32 comments about the project. Thread score -0.51.

Performance: 2 for, 21 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Visual feedback while it pings locations is nice

    From 1 comment
    • It is close. Really nice effect and visual feedback while it is hitting each location.
      darekdk on HN
  • Worked well for some users, including VPN tests

    From 2 comments
    • I tried with my real IP, and then again tunneled through a VPN 3 times each to different continents and it got all four 100% correct. The VPN tests did have lower confidence, IE…
      colinbartlett on HN
    • It worked pretty well for me. The center of the circle was about a 45 minute drive to NYC.
      tmaly on HN

Objections

  • Results are often wildly wrong, placing users on other continents

    From 5 comments
    • Ran this about 10 times, it never once entered the correct hemisphere. Hint: I don't live in the northern one.
      grawlinson on HN
    • Keeps putting me in the middle of the indian ocean with high confidence. I'm in eastern Australia.
      daurnimator on HN
    • Apparently Japan is smack in the middle of the Atlantic. Who knew?
      donw on HN
    • I ran it 3 times from my iPhone in Tokyo. Results were Iran/Afghanistan, China/Taiwan, and Saudi Arabia.
      level3 on HN
    • Not even the right continent for me.
      iand675 on HN
  • Circle size is too small to contain the actual location

    From 2 comments
    • Feels a bit overconfident - it was much better than the previous approach, and it got better over the iterations, getting very close - but however, 100% of the time my actual…
      PeterisP on HN
    • Same here, I ended up ~2000kms away (at best) from the circle (from Bangkok)
      tbronchain on HN
  • Latency does not indicate geographic location reliably

    From 2 comments
    • Latency is not an indicator for geographic anything. If this is just a fun hobby project, by all means go for it but don't expect it to be very truthful ever.
      anc84 on HN
    • The ping class likely needs to be scrapped to make this any sort of reliable. Making a fake image request to these servers introduces a lot of very random sources of latency over…
      runin2k1 on HN
  • Sparse server coverage, especially in Australia

    From 2 comments
    • Throw more ping servers in Australia and it'll work :)
      sheerun on HN
    • For me it often comes close, but seems to be unable to converge on my actual location. It always ends up stuck south east of it. I am in San Francisco. The other passive geo…
      codezero on HN

Requests

  • Add more ping servers in regions like Australia

    From 1 comment
    • Throw more ping servers in Australia and it'll work :)
      sheerun on HN
  • Include TTL from IP header

    From 1 comment
    • Why not also include TTL field from IP header.
      est on HN

Questions

  • Does it measure the actual TCP/IP RTT rather than HTTP request time?

    From 1 comment
    • Hi, the author of original submission here. I like your idea, especially the number of servers you used. I'm only concerned that using a full HTTP GET to measure the latency…
      pjf on HN

Alternatives named

  • NLNOG RING triangulation service

    From 1 comment
    • The creator of the NLNOG RING did a very good job of this using all ~400 servers around the world, as an experiment. Was pretty accurate. http://map.ring.nlnog.net/ (That…
      virtuallynathan on HN
  • Another passive geolocation site posted to HN

    From 2 comments
    • The other website posted on HN yesterday was much more accurate in that it had very large error circle and I was within the circle. This one tries to be way to specific which you…
      destitude on HN
    • For me it often comes close, but seems to be unable to converge on my actual location. It always ends up stuck south east of it. I am in San Francisco. The other passive geo…
      codezero on HN

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