Cryptic

Security and privacy

secret management

SHOW HN2016

93points
32comments
#410of 2,264 in 2016
Top 19%of 2016 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

0 positive, 6 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 6 critical, out of 14 comments about the project. Thread score -0.31.

Privacy: 0 for, 4 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Neat idea and reasonable as a project

    From 1 comment
    • So this is a neat idea, because Credstash and Sneaker are certainly not perfect gizmos, but it leads to the turtles problem: how do I securely handle the initial key that's being…
      eropple on HN

Objections

  • Uses passwords as keys without a KDF

    From 2 comments
    • This is exactly the use case of https://github.com/gtank/cryptopasta Although, the only thing I can see it doing wrong is the use of passwords as keys…
      FiloSottile on HN
    • A secure storage system shouldn't allow passwords as keys. If passwords are a thing that is going to happen, the API should be structured so that those passwords get run through…
      tptacek on HN
  • Lacks KMS encryption context and IAM policy management that Credstash offers

    From 2 comments
    • So this is a neat idea, because Credstash and Sneaker are certainly not perfect gizmos, but it leads to the turtles problem: how do I securely handle the initial key that's being…
      eropple on HN
    • Credstash looks great, but having written something very similar for internal use (a secrets management system using KMS and S3 for use by EC2 instances) I was expecting it to…
      ak217 on HN
  • Vault already covers this need

    From 1 comment
    • It's always good to see options out there. But honestly, having being working with Hashicorp's Vault for a while (https://www.vaultproject.io/) I really don't see the need for…
      Natales on HN

Requests

  • Support KMS encryption context

    From 1 comment
    • So this is a neat idea, because Credstash and Sneaker are certainly not perfect gizmos, but it leads to the turtles problem: how do I securely handle the initial key that's being…
      eropple on HN
  • Document the crypto design

    From 1 comment
    • Cool! I've love to hear more about the security and crypto design. I started writing up some questions but after asking so many it feels like I should just check out the code and…
      ketralnis on HN

Questions

  • How does it compare to Vault?

    From 1 comment
    • I don't know much about secret management. How does this compare to something like Vault? Edit: https://www.vaultproject.io/
      RussianCow on HN
  • Can it replace 1Password?

    From 1 comment
    • Can this be used to replace apps like 1Password for a skilled user?
      pibefision on HN

Alternatives named

  • Credstash

    From 1 comment
    • So this is a neat idea, because Credstash and Sneaker are certainly not perfect gizmos, but it leads to the turtles problem: how do I securely handle the initial key that's being…
      eropple on HN
  • Vault

    From 2 comments
    • I don't know much about secret management. How does this compare to something like Vault? Edit: https://www.vaultproject.io/
      RussianCow on HN
    • It's always good to see options out there. But honestly, having being working with Hashicorp's Vault for a while (https://www.vaultproject.io/) I really don't see the need for…
      Natales on HN
  • Sneaker

    From 1 comment
    • So this is a neat idea, because Credstash and Sneaker are certainly not perfect gizmos, but it leads to the turtles problem: how do I securely handle the initial key that's being…
      eropple on HN
  • Keywhiz

    From 1 comment
    • It's always good to see options out there. But honestly, having being working with Hashicorp's Vault for a while (https://www.vaultproject.io/) I really don't see the need for…
      Natales on HN
  • biscuit

    From 1 comment
    • I went with biscuit because it writes to a simple file and I am not worried about updating 2 secrets at once, particularly since I have a different file per app per environment.…
      gregwebs on HN

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