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95points
37comments
#481of 2,242 in 2017
Top 22%of 2017 by points

How HN took it

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3 positive, 12 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 8 critical, out of 23 comments about the project. Thread score -0.03.

Idea: 1 for, 2 againstPerformance: 0 for, 3 againstExecution: 0 for, 2 againstDocs: 1 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Nice project and a useful idea

    From 1 comment
    • Nice project! Last year I made a similar PoC on Elixir based on the paper "Crawling DHTs for fun and profit"[1]. In that paper the researcher uses a pool of IPs to introduce…
      wut42 on HN

Objections

  • Crawler behaviour violates the BitTorrent spec and is selfish toward other nodes

    From 3 comments
    • Skimming over the code it seems like it's doing fairly egregious bittorrent spec violations. In other words its very selfish and other clients may blacklist it if they detect…
      the8472 on HN
    • > Yes. Of course, I do not have data nor the foresight to claim that its short or long term effects are negligible, but I really doubt if it's not the case. And what if people…
      the8472 on HN
    • > bittorrent.org acknowledges the need & the issue It does not acknowledge or imply that what you are doing (forged replies) is necessary. It only acknowledges that indexing…
      the8472 on HN
  • Not truly decentralised because it bootstraps from central nodes

    From 1 comment
    • Its not really decentralized. Readme says: " magnetico liberates BitTorrent from the yoke of centralised trackers & web-sites and makes it truly decentralised. Finally! " Source…
      barrystaes on HN
  • Spam in the DHT makes it hard to find useful results without filtering

    From 1 comment
    • Its not really decentralized. Readme says: " magnetico liberates BitTorrent from the yoke of centralised trackers & web-sites and makes it truly decentralised. Finally! " Source…
      barrystaes on HN

Requests

  • Support BEP 51 so the crawler behaves properly

    From 1 comment
    • Probably a bit late to the party, but: > Once [BEP51] becomes more widespread (hopefully together with BEP 42), magnetico will (and has to) drop its current technique and support…
      rakoo on HN
  • Add a docker-compose file and WebUI screenshots

    From 1 comment
    • This looks rather nice though two things seem to be missing: * A docker-compose file for easy testing * Screenshots of the WebUI
      tscs37 on HN

Questions

  • How does it cover the hash space with few IPs

    From 1 comment
    • Nice project! Last year I made a similar PoC on Elixir based on the paper "Crawling DHTs for fun and profit"[1]. In that paper the researcher uses a pool of IPs to introduce…
      wut42 on HN
  • Is running it on a traceable IP risky

    From 1 comment
    • A couple of thoughts on this. 1. I assume it is "dangerous" to run this on an IP address that is easily traceable back to you, since it claims, to various peers, to be…
      NoGravitas on HN
  • What is the real network impact of the fake node IDs

    From 2 comments
    • Could you explain the harm in a bit more details? How many false identities (that don't respond) is needed to flood the routing table and cause a noticeable impact, and further,…
      belorn on HN
    • I'm not sure if you have understood my argument. The precise ratio at which it becomes noticeable or at which things start breaking down is not relevant to gauging whether an…
      the8472 on HN

Alternatives named

  • skytorrents.in

    From 1 comment
    • A couple of thoughts on this. 1. I assume it is "dangerous" to run this on an IP address that is easily traceable back to you, since it claims, to various peers, to be…
      NoGravitas on HN
  • Tribler

    From 1 comment
    • You haven't taken into account the resources required to do so. 1) Open ports, alredy rules out a large part of those millions 2) Willingness to sacrifice bandwidth for something…
      c3833174 on HN

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