Coinhive

Finance and crypto

in-browser crypto mining

SHOW HN2017

212points
97comments
#147of 2,242 in 2017
Top 7%of 2017 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

12 positive, 29 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 17 critical, out of 65 comments about the project. Thread score +0.02.

Performance: 2 for, 9 againstIdea: 8 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 5 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Novel, opt-in-friendly alternative to ads

    From 4 comments
    • I love this idea, congratulations on the launch.
      zazibar on HN
    • I think this is a really great idea! I'd rather have sites do this then bombard me with 10000 banners. Sure it increases my CPU load but I'd argue it reduces my cognitive load!
      sharkhacks on HN
    • I really like this, as there is opt in consent. Perhaps you could default the number of threads to `navigator.getHardwareConcurrency -1`
      dannyw on HN
    • This is a novel method of monetisation. Instead of a paywall users could have the option to mine for the duration of their use of the content.
      celticninja on HN
  • Captcha replacement for bot deterrence

    From 2 comments
    • The captcha thing is great. I'm tired of annotating Googles Machine Learning Datasets for them!
      dna_polymerase on HN
    • This is much better than I thought it would be. I wonder how many commentors actually tried the demos. Two of the three ways I could see on the page to use it involve delaying…
      throwaway2016a on HN

Objections

  • Drains CPU, battery and fans; too heavy on devices

    From 4 comments
    • running it makes my laptop fans turning to max
      rihegher on HN
    • It's taking more than a minute for me to sign up on Coinhive because of the proof-of-work in their registration form. Definitely a no-no for computers older than 3 years.
      fiatjaf on HN
    • It's creative approach to content monetization that solves some of the problems associated with ads, such as visual clutter. But mining is a computationally intensive process.…
      winterlight on HN
    • If this is not clearly opt-in I wish those responsible for using it on their site a slow and painful death. Performance and bloat in browsers are a huge problem and having this…
      tjoff on HN
  • Mining without clear consent is abusive

    From 3 comments
    • If this is not clearly opt-in I wish those responsible for using it on their site a slow and painful death. Performance and bloat in browsers are a huge problem and having this…
      tjoff on HN
    • No reason not to treat it just as badly as attempts to mine bitcoin off your CPU. Both of those waste your resources, for someone else's profits, without your consent.
      TeMPOraL on HN
    • It is giving consent, in some sense. But make a popular website use visitors' browsers to launch a DDoS attack and you'll find that "anything goes as long as it's the bounds of…
      clarry on HN
  • Earnings per visitor are tiny

    From 3 comments
    • 2-5 cents per 24 hours of a user being on your site seems like a bad tradeoff for the downsides.
      detaro on HN
    • to earn 0.01 USD you need 1MH at the moment. In my browser I can generate 25H/S so about 44 days on one browser to generate 1$
      rihegher on HN
    • Running on 2015 Mac with Chrome, I got 75 H/s At the current exchange rate, that's about $3.78/month.
      lgats on HN
  • Ad blockers would block it

    From 1 comment
    • Cant imagine that anyone blocking ads wouldnt also block this
      merkaloid on HN

Requests

  • Show earnings in USD rather than hash rate

    From 1 comment
    • Just an advice, on your landing page, you have a miner ui, showing the hash rate. I wonder if you can change the hash rate to something more understandable, such as USD/hr?
      billconan on HN
  • Default thread count to cores minus one

    From 1 comment
    • I really like this, as there is opt in consent. Perhaps you could default the number of threads to `navigator.getHardwareConcurrency -1`
      dannyw on HN
  • Self-hosting option for captcha validation

    From 1 comment
    • How do I self host this? I can't deal with the type of overhead needed for validating the captcha across the network..
      dylz on HN

Questions

  • How is it different from HashCash?

    From 2 comments
    • This idea has been tried before (https://hashcash.io/). Question for the developers: 1. How is this attempt different from HashCash, aside from using Monero? 2. What are you…
      dsacco on HN
    • > 1. How is this attempt different from HashCash, aside from using Monero? I've never heard of either service, so I checked out both. One big difference between the two is that I…
      dvdhnt on HN
  • Does the captcha prove a human is present?

    From 2 comments
    • This is much better than I thought it would be. I wonder how many commentors actually tried the demos. Two of the three ways I could see on the page to use it involve delaying…
      throwaway2016a on HN
    • I'm also curious about the Captcha. It's a great idea, but what's to say that bots won't be able to run it as well?
      xd1936 on HN
  • Can it be used for piracy sites and is that legal?

    From 1 comment
    • What a great idea. Seems like a disruptive new revenue model for sites with good content. I wonder if it will be co-opted for use by sites offering pirated content, which raises…
      eigenvalue on HN

Alternatives named

  • HashCash

    From 1 comment
    • This idea has been tried before (https://hashcash.io/). Question for the developers: 1. How is this attempt different from HashCash, aside from using Monero? 2. What are you…
      dsacco on HN
  • NiceHash

    From 1 comment
    • That exists (for crypto mining). https://www.nicehash.com/
      akx on HN
  • MinerGate

    From 1 comment
    • I've heard some using MinerGate web mining in this way. Now, those same people can use Coin-Hive.
      WhiteOwlLion on HN
  • ProHashing

    From 1 comment

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