Peoplesign

Security and privacy

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SHOW HN2010

3points
6comments
#221of 370 in 2010
Top 60%of 2010 by points

How HN took it

QuietFewer than 5 comments about the project

0 positive, 0 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 2 critical, out of 2 comments about the project.

Execution: 0 for, 1 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

Objections

  • Guessing odds are too low: about 1 in 36 per attempt, so bots can brute force it

    From 2 comments
    • That is a retarded captcha. You have a 1 in 6 chance of randomly guessing the first picture right, and then a 1 in 6 chance of getting the second picture right. So my automated…
      grepular on HN
    • I'd probably use just use Tor or similar to make all requests come from different IPs. You don't need to increase the number of pictures by a couple, you need to increase the…
      grepular on HN
  • Human outsourcing solving services would defeat it

    From 1 comment
    • You are missing the way people break captchas... it is not because they have super cool software that can read the captcha, have a huge database of hashed portions of a…
      bsnss-mn-cdr on HN
  • Distributed IPs would evade rate limiting

    From 2 comments
    • I'd probably use just use Tor or similar to make all requests come from different IPs. You don't need to increase the number of pictures by a couple, you need to increase the…
      grepular on HN
    • If someone is making 30+ requests from distinct ip addresses in their botnet, you won't even suspect they're related.
      mooism2 on HN

Requests

  • Increase the number of possible photos by orders of magnitude

    From 2 comments
    • I'd probably use just use Tor or similar to make all requests come from different IPs. You don't need to increase the number of pictures by a couple, you need to increase the…
      grepular on HN
    • Your concern is somewhat valid although if someone is making 30 plus attempts to submit a form can we not assume it is a bot? We have made a configuration interface to allow…
      ermac on HN

Alternatives named

  • reCAPTCHA

    From 1 comment
    • reCAPTCHA is bar none the way to go. Not only is is robust, but it also serves a useful purpose---it uses user answers to the reCAPTCHA to digitize books by having users…
      chisophugis on HN

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