Nerv
Languages and libraries
javascript ui library
SHOW HN2018
133points
73comments
#314of 2,155 in 2018
Top 15%of 2018 by points
How HN took it
MixedNo clear lean
6 positive, 21 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 16 critical, out of 44 comments about the project. Thread score -0.23.
Idea: 1 for, 8 againstExecution: 1 for, 4 againstDocs: 0 for, 3 againstPerformance: 2 for, 1 againstDesign: 1 for, 0 against
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What HN said
What people liked
Zero dependencies and small size
From 2 comments
As far as i can tell, this has zero dependencies. Wow - impressive stuff!
chubs on HNSize is nice but I see nothing to support claims of performance improvements and React performance is rarely a problem in most apps anyhow (data manipulation and JSON…
abritinthebay on HN
Patching algorithm based on ivi, giving perf credibility
From 1 comment
To add a bit of context to the second link (a comment I made): the core patching algorithm in nerv is based on the patching algorithm from ivi, a library that was created by…
lhorie on HN
Objections
Performance claims lack clear benchmarks and labels
From 3 comments
Shame that the y axis on the first 3 charts isn't labeled. I assume it's milliseconds, kilobites, milliseconds.
milesokeefe on HNThe Y-axis on the benchmarks is labelled starting at 1. In short, this is barely 20% quicker than React.
aetherspawn on HNDon't know if you're the author but under the Performance section, there is a typo: "Le{r}an More". Also, your none of your performance graphs have a label/unit of measure for…
kamikaz1k on HN
IE8 support is a niche use case
From 2 comments
If that's the only reason thats a reasonably small niche - WinXP only most likely. I mean China & India have more of those machines but... it's still a niche.
abritinthebay on HNI'd consider supporting IE8 an anti-feature. The browser is insecure, unsupported, and non-standards compliant. I've spent way too many hours of my life learning quirks of the…
TheAceOfHearts on HN
Small community and no stated tradeoffs
From 2 comments
> hoping one of the authors chimes in and clarifies That is an example of exactly why not - the support behind React is huge. Even if we take their word that Nerv is great from a…
codingdave on HNI'm a bit weary of this project since neither the website nor the readme mention any tradeoffs. Surely, if I choose Nerv over React I miss out on something—what is that…
mxstbr on HN
Does not work with ReasonReact and depends on React internals
From 1 comment
I tried this on my ReasonReact app and it doesn't work. Seems like this has many assumption about React internal instead of focusing on the public API
thangngoc89 on HN
Requests
Explain how performance gains are achieved
From 2 comments
It would be great if the author could explain where the performance gains come from and what the internal mechanics of the project are. Does it piggy back onto the existing react…
lgse on HNDo you have any performance numbers or benchmarks by which to measure the claims of superior performance? I’m not doubting you do see better perf - but I’m curious how this…
jitl on HN
Run the React 16 test suite against Nerv
From 2 comments
Thinking about this more, the React team recently (for the v16 rewrite) rewrote almost their entire test suite to use their public API. I wonder what'd happen if you ran that…
mxstbr on HNIs it 100% pass the React 16 tests?
KayL on HN
Questions
Is it a fork of React or Inferno
From 2 comments
It's not even based on a fork of React, either. I took a quick look at some of the earlier commits... and if there's any underlying React code there, then it's either been…
dentemple on HNIs this a fork of inferno js?
dqv on HN
Alternatives named
React
From 1 comment
I'm a bit weary of this project since neither the website nor the readme mention any tradeoffs. Surely, if I choose Nerv over React I miss out on something—what is that…
mxstbr on HN
Preact
From 2 comments
Size is nice but I see nothing to support claims of performance improvements and React performance is rarely a problem in most apps anyhow (data manipulation and JSON…
abritinthebay on HNThere have been drop in replacements for react+react-dom before, like inferno and preact. They all have claimed perf benefits, though benchmarks usually don't mean much. The size…
mlsarecmg on HN
Inferno
From 2 comments
Is this a fork of inferno js?
dqv on HNThere have been drop in replacements for react+react-dom before, like inferno and preact. They all have claimed perf benefits, though benchmarks usually don't mean much. The size…
mlsarecmg on HN