Subform

Dev tools

ui layout design tool

SHOW HN2018

219points
61comments
#154of 2,155 in 2018
Top 8%of 2018 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

10 positive, 19 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 6 critical, out of 39 comments about the project. Thread score +0.10.

Pricing: 3 for, 4 againstIdea: 4 for, 1 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Honest about use cases where the tool is not a fit

    From 2 comments
    • Not in the target demographic, but it certainly looks interesting. Over the years I grew used to CSS, and generally find it's good enough for my needs. I find it incredibly…
      TheAceOfHearts on HN
    • Kudos for releasing it on Windows too, too many desing / UX tools simply exclude it. Also, I appreciate the honesty here: https://subformapp.com/why-not-subform/
      kowdermeister on HN
  • Good idea to address CSS design pain

    From 2 comments
    • First, this tool is brilliant. I’ve been a Front end dev for 7 years and I still google “centering in the unknown” every time because it’s easier than remembering the properties.…
      iambateman on HN
    • This seems like a good place to say I really enjoyed watching the video of your talk from Deconstruct Conf 2017…
      aidanhs on HN

Objections

  • Paid beta is a barrier; wants a free trial

    From 3 comments
    • Why not open it to a free trial? I’d like to try it out as well. I don’t like the whole refund song & dance game.
      austinkhale on HN
    • Disagree. First, I won't say your product is a commodity, but there are many, many, many layout and design tools out there. I'm not going to pay $25 to evaluate each one. It's as…
      ccleve on HN
    • I consider myself a big fan of design tools. I really want to try yours, but I can't bring myself to pay for a beta. I might consider a paid trial ($5/2 weeks) or something,…
      vogt on HN
  • Price is high compared with competitors

    From 2 comments
    • The issue is that Subform is 3x the price of Sketch (which lets you keep your current version when your license runs out) and 2x as expensive as Figma Pro and Framer. Subform is…
      slama on HN
    • Still, having the whole adobe suite costs ~$25/month (if you wait until a promotion) Having the whole Jetbrains Suite costs ~$25/month Sublime costs ~$70 Leonardo (a drawing…
      Bishonen88 on HN

Requests

  • Free trial option

    From 2 comments
    • Why not open it to a free trial? I’d like to try it out as well. I don’t like the whole refund song & dance game.
      austinkhale on HN
    • Looks like a well thought out tool. Though to get me or my team to adopt it I'd need at least a sprint or two of a free trial. I hope it gains adoption. It probably says more…
      jbryson3 on HN

Questions

  • How does it differ from Webflow and similar tools

    From 2 comments
    • So, what's the difference between this and Webflow?
      acmecorps on HN
    • Realistically, how is it any different than any of these types of tools? How does Subform differ from Webflow and why should Webflow users switch? Or is it more of a "hope the…
      tsumnia on HN
  • Is there responsive breakpoint support

    From 1 comment
    • Looks great and I may well give it a try. I have one question though which I can't seem to find any mention of from the site - is there any way to define breakpoints for…
      myguysi on HN

Alternatives named

  • Webflow

    From 1 comment
  • Sketch

    From 1 comment
    • I believe they're aligning themselves to revenue models similar to Sketch[1], Figma[2], Framer[3], and a quite a few other competitors in the same space [1]…
      kidfiji on HN
  • Figma

    From 1 comment
    • I believe they're aligning themselves to revenue models similar to Sketch[1], Figma[2], Framer[3], and a quite a few other competitors in the same space [1]…
      kidfiji on HN
  • Pagedraw

    From 1 comment

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