Krypton for Teams

Security and privacy

ssh key management

SHOW HN2018

53points
19comments
#763of 2,155 in 2018
Top 36%of 2018 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

2 positive, 7 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 3 critical, out of 13 comments about the project. Thread score +0.03.

Idea: 2 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 againstExecution: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good idea, strong approach to team SSH key management

    From 3 comments
    • Krypton looks awesome! A while ago I made https://www.sshpubkey.com/ to store different ssh public keys across different hosts. But Krypton appears to be a much more intelligent…
      hkhanna on HN
    • Cool. I started building out something similar-ish once, but used a slack bot instead of mobile. I wasn't as concerned with temporary SSH creds, as much as I just wanted a way to…
      sudosteph on HN
    • This is super cool! Do you have planned support for consensus-type mutlisig access? (ie: needing M of N approvals to acccess resources)
      muzakthings on HN

Objections

  • Long-lived SSH keys conflict with short-lived certificate access management

    From 1 comment
    • Right, but that's a long-lived durable SSH credential. Part of the point of modern SSH access management is not to have any of those anymore.
      tptacek on HN
  • Unclear how personal and work use are separated on the same key

    From 2 comments
    • So I really wanted to use this for our team but hit a few problems. This seems to run on AWS and so does most of our systems if this does not work and with no way to export the…
      MightySCollins on HN
    • Krypton supports bluetooth for so even if SQS and SNS are down -- you can still SSH. We'll also shortly be rolling out USB support just incase bluetooth also happens to not be…
      agrinman on HN
  • Security concern about storing keys on a personal phone versus a work laptop

    From 1 comment
    • So I have a Linux laptop with full disk encryption that only gets used for work stuff and lives in the office 5-6 out of 7 days. If I move it, I'm paying attention. Contrast to…
      wink on HN

Requests

  • Support for multisig M-of-N approvals

    From 2 comments
    • This is super cool! Do you have planned support for consensus-type mutlisig access? (ie: needing M of N approvals to acccess resources)
      muzakthings on HN
    • Yes! This is coming in the next few months. You'll be able to require multiple admins to approve production releases or really lock up sensitive machines. Supervised access…
      agrinman on HN
  • Ability to try local keys before Krypton

    From 1 comment
    • 1. All team actions should be prefixed under "kr team", right now i don't know what happens if i run "kr add" if i only want to add myself to a server, ie outside my team. 2.…
      apazgo on HN
  • Team-scoped command prefix and clearer kr add behavior

    From 2 comments
    • 1. All team actions should be prefixed under "kr team", right now i don't know what happens if i run "kr add" if i only want to add myself to a server, ie outside my team. 2.…
      apazgo on HN
    • Problem with `kr add user@bastion` is that you as `user1` won't normally have access to ssh as `user2`, but "authenticating as one user but modifying another" would work of…
      apazgo on HN

Questions

  • How does it fit with SSH certificate authority and short-lived access?

    From 1 comment
    • How does this work with modern SSH access management? If you were talking to an organization about maybe adopting this, and they told you they were planning in the medium term to…
      tptacek on HN
  • Can private keys be exported if the service is unavailable?

    From 1 comment
    • So I really wanted to use this for our team but hit a few problems. This seems to run on AWS and so does most of our systems if this does not work and with no way to export the…
      MightySCollins on HN

Alternatives named

  • Slack bot for temporary security group access

    From 1 comment
    • Cool. I started building out something similar-ish once, but used a slack bot instead of mobile. I wasn't as concerned with temporary SSH creds, as much as I just wanted a way to…
      sudosteph on HN
  • sshpubkey.com

    From 1 comment
    • Krypton looks awesome! A while ago I made https://www.sshpubkey.com/ to store different ssh public keys across different hosts. But Krypton appears to be a much more intelligent…
      hkhanna on HN

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