Hyperfiddle
Dev tools
real-time web app editor
SHOW HN2018
How HN took it
4 positive, 8 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 8 critical, out of 21 comments about the project. Thread score -0.16.
Docs: 0 for, 4 againstIdea: 1 for, 2 againstPerformance: 1 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 against
The thread, comment by comment
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What HN said
What people liked
Live editing and time-travel via Datomic make the approach interesting
From 2 comments
Like others, it took me a while to understand what this actually does. Even coming from a Clojure+Datomic background. As best I can tell, this is like phpMyAdmin for Datomic. But…
aaroniba on HNI've known about hyperfiddle for a while, but I never really "got" it. I finally get it, this is https://glitch.com but with a hosted database and can be used for real web apps…
swlkr on HN
Fast demo and shareable fiddles are appealing
From 1 comment
Looks really cool! I got it, the fast video was great.
unixhero on HN
Objections
Homepage and presentation are confusing to newcomers
From 4 comments
Just to add another piece of feedback - I'm someone who has written production Clojure + Datomic apps and still don't understand what this product actually does. Not withstanding…
jtmarmon on HNAs a user, don't make me think when I visit your website. What am I looking at? The tagline "Real CRUD apps, zero to prod in a month in real-time." is good. The rest is confusing…
aargh_aargh on HNYou really need to make the presentation more approachable. It would be great if you could get a web developer to do the front-end for you -- the more unfamiliar he/she is to…
kreetx on HNI like the idea but it seems too confusing for anyone without background on datomic and clojure. Also there is no labeling/help for the interface. It almost feels alien.
option_greek on HN
Requires Clojure and Datomic knowledge
From 2 comments
I love the idea and I've worked on similar stuff (although not in Clojure or Datomic) multiple times[1], however never finishing anything. The problem is that I don't know…
fiatjaf on HNI like the idea but it seems too confusing for anyone without background on datomic and clojure. Also there is no labeling/help for the interface. It almost feels alien.
option_greek on HN
Live editing does not replace git and versioning for production
From 1 comment
Perhaps I've been eating the 'devops' cookies for too long, but live editing doesn't replace git and versioning. Even if you're running only 'latest' version and your product is…
xchaotic on HN
Large JavaScript payload size
From 1 comment
Thanks for sharing your work! Your demo app has a 1.7MB payload after gzipping (the main.js file alone is 9.5MB before gzip). For me, this alone would be a dealbreaker. Do you…
chrisparton1991 on HN
Requests
Clearer homepage and explanation of what the product does
From 3 comments
Just to add another piece of feedback - I'm someone who has written production Clojure + Datomic apps and still don't understand what this product actually does. Not withstanding…
jtmarmon on HNAs a user, don't make me think when I visit your website. What am I looking at? The tagline "Real CRUD apps, zero to prod in a month in real-time." is good. The rest is confusing…
aargh_aargh on HNYou really need to make the presentation more approachable. It would be great if you could get a web developer to do the front-end for you -- the more unfamiliar he/she is to…
kreetx on HN
Reduce payload size
From 1 comment
Thanks for sharing your work! Your demo app has a 1.7MB payload after gzipping (the main.js file alone is 9.5MB before gzip). For me, this alone would be a dealbreaker. Do you…
chrisparton1991 on HN
Questions
Does it store data on the user's PC or a server?
From 1 comment
Does it save the data on the user PC or on a server?
qwerty456127 on HN
Is hosted Datomic allowed under the license?
From 1 comment
I definitely think there's value in hosted datomic. But I was under the impression the license forbade it - did they change that?
pbiggar on HN
Alternatives named
phpMyAdmin
From 2 comments
Like others, it took me a while to understand what this actually does. Even coming from a Clojure+Datomic background. As best I can tell, this is like phpMyAdmin for Datomic. But…
aaroniba on HNMy first impression was that this was something kinda like phpmyadmin, but more convenient. phpmyadmin takes work to install (30m plus when you include debug time). And it's not…
megaman8 on HN
Glitch
From 1 comment
I've known about hyperfiddle for a while, but I never really "got" it. I finally get it, this is https://glitch.com but with a hosted database and can be used for real web apps…
swlkr on HN
FileMaker
From 1 comment
Oh haha, filemaker still exists https://www.filemaker.com Though it sadly doesn't seem web based
tokyodude on HN
Airtable and Ragic
From 1 comment
Ragic, Airtable?
fiatjaf on HN