Visa List (LGBT+ travel rankings)

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186points
116comments
#306of 3,028 in 2020
Top 11%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

1 positive, 15 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 29 critical, out of 47 comments about the project. Thread score -0.58.

Execution: 0 for, 22 againstDocs: 0 for, 3 againstPerformance: 0 for, 2 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 againstIdea: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Awesome project, nice UX

    From 2 comments
    • This is such an awesome project! Kudos
      herbstein on HN
    • Great website, really nice UX. Small bug with some of the data -- spot the "undefined"s: "United States has a LGBT+ travel rank of 53 with a total gay travel score of 57. United…
      davedx on HN

Objections

  • Outdated or wrong country facts such as Taiwan, Russia and Algeria

    From 3 comments
    • The data seems pretty out of date for Taiwan. LGBT couples can be married, and stepchildren can be adopted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Taiwan
      Benneb on HN
    • So many fake data on this, ok let's take Algeria as example of course it's not place for gay people but i'm questioning the data let's start by Death Sentence Algeria doesn't…
      afroboy on HN
    • Also, according to International Monetary Fund, Russia is a developing, not developed, country.
      onyva on HN
  • Typos, undefined fields and copy-pasted text

    From 4 comments
    • Personally I'd like to see more information and transparency about how the ratings are calculated and where the data is coming from for me to put faith in the website and…
      lawlorino on HN
    • Great website, really nice UX. Small bug with some of the data -- spot the "undefined"s: "United States has a LGBT+ travel rank of 53 with a total gay travel score of 57. United…
      davedx on HN
    • https://visalist.io/russia/gay-travel > The main currency is undefined. It's the Russian Rouble (RUB). > the Russian Federation is the formal name of undefined I'm not sure what…
      ainar-g on HN
    • It looks like you have a typo: "civit rights" instead of "civil rights". Where do the numbers come from?
      mkl on HN
  • Rankings ignore regional variation within countries

    From 3 comments
    • There's a bunch of variance of acceptance depending on where exactly you are in the LGBTP+ spectrum, no? For that reason alone it seems like you'd need more granularity on the…
      anonnyj on HN
    • Love the idea. Terrible execution. Here's some constructive criticism: The site currently is as useless as listing the average elevation of countries to determine where mountains…
      MacsHeadroom on HN
    • https://visalist.io/russia/gay-travel > The main currency is undefined. It's the Russian Rouble (RUB). > the Russian Federation is the formal name of undefined I'm not sure what…
      ainar-g on HN
  • Slow scrolling and broken without JavaScript

    From 2 comments
    • looks okay, but this site is very slow for me. takes seconds to scroll... i have the feeling it could be faster.
      blondin on HN
    • The website deliberately breaks if no javascript.
      thepangolino on HN

Requests

  • Show how scores are calculated and where data comes from more prominently

    From 3 comments
    • Personally I'd like to see more information and transparency about how the ratings are calculated and where the data is coming from for me to put faith in the website and…
      lawlorino on HN
    • Oh, yep I guess it is there. Seems like it could be a little more prominent, since this is basically just their dataset, with some filtering and ads (and a more confusing…
      JshWright on HN
    • Where does the data come from?
      pokgak on HN
  • Add regional or city-level granularity

    From 2 comments
    • Love the idea. Terrible execution. Here's some constructive criticism: The site currently is as useless as listing the average elevation of countries to determine where mountains…
      MacsHeadroom on HN
    • Interesting project Does this account for how regional variation within each country? Because even in the UK, peoples attitudes can vary wildly from one town and city to another.
      laumars on HN
  • Better coverage of transgender issues

    From 1 comment
    • Like so many others, these rankings seem to be far more focused on the LGB than the T. Also, the site tells me that I'll get murdered or sentenced to death if I visit a given…
      excitedleigh on HN

Questions

  • What do the percentage scores mean and how are they computed

    From 3 comments
    • Personally I'd like to see more information and transparency about how the ratings are calculated and where the data is coming from for me to put faith in the website and…
      lawlorino on HN
    • > Equal Age of Consent: 67% What does this mean? Spartacus has a 1 or 0 (true/false?) in this column.
      keanzu on HN
    • Come again? This is pretty much word salad. In the source data, Saudi Arabia is scored as a -2 for locals hostile and France only -1. The percentage is 17% and 33%, respectively.…
      catblast on HN

Alternatives named

  • Spartacus Gay Travel Index

    From 2 comments
    • I got this data from Spartacus. All these numbers are based on data from them https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-index/
      1hakr on HN
    • Yes, he does. It is on the RHS on the "LGBT+ Travel Rankings of the world" page (linked in OP). "This ranking is based on 14 different paramters like civil rights, discrimation…
      keanzu on HN
  • Wikipedia LGBT rights by country

    From 2 comments
    • Here ya go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory
      learnstats2 on HN
    • Thanks! fixed it. I got the data from https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-index/ which is also present in wikipedia
      1hakr on HN

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