DNS over Wikipedia

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SHOW HN2020

398points
104comments
#87of 3,028 in 2020
Top 3%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

11 positive, 21 neutral or asking, 1 mixed, 12 critical, out of 45 comments about the project. Thread score -0.06.

Idea: 7 for, 9 againstPrivacy: 2 for, 3 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Clever concept, using consensus-maintained Wikipedia links

    From 3 comments
    • This is hecka cool. What a clever concept! I like the idea of piggy-backing on top of a mechanism that is sort of kept in the right state by consensus.
      renewiltord on HN
    • Woah this is hecka cool!! Nice work to the authors.
      upgoat on HN
    • Awesome idea! It could be applied to a lot of different websites. Even ones where I'm too lazy to type out the whole URL :p Regardless, having a system where you can base it off…
      jneplokh on HN

Objections

  • Not actually DNS; it is HTTP redirection or search autocorrect

    From 4 comments
    • DNS translates a name into an IP address. This is not DNS per-se, it is just a search plugin for the url bar. If an analogy was needed with a network service perhaps this is more…
      HugoDaniel on HN
    • Just because it's doing key-value pairs does not mean it's DNS. If I can't `dig` it, it's not DNS. This is simply doing HTTP redirects and works with no other protocols.
      sfoley on HN
    • The extension has nothing to do with DNS, a more accurate name would be "autocorrect over wikipedia". The rust server set up with dnsmasq is a legit DNS server though.
      snek on HN
    • Nitpicking: Technically it's not DNS as it doesn't resolve names to addresses. Maybe CNAME over Wikipedia?
      abiogenesis on HN
  • Wikipedia is editable by anyone, so links can be spammed or phished

    From 3 comments
    • One concern is that you can’t always trust the Wikipedia link. For example, in this edit [1] to the Equifax page, a spammer changed the link to a spam site. They’re usually fixed…
      gbear605 on HN
    • Many Wikipedia articles can be edited by anyone. This is not secure.
      29athrowaway on HN
    • Interesting idea but: - How do you handle ambiguity? e.g what happens when sci-hub.idk and scihub.idk differ? - Aren’t you concerned by the fact that Wikipedia is open to editing…
      erikig on HN

Requests

  • Use Wikidata as the source of official URLs

    From 3 comments
    • > Wikipedia keeps track of official URLs for popular websites This should be Wikidata. Wikipedia does that, but this is more and more moved into Wikidata. This is a good thing,…
      hk__2 on HN
    • Maybe use WikiData? The slower rate of updates might work in your favour to avoid vandalism.
      captn3m0 on HN
    • Wouldn't this be an excellent use case for Wikidata? For example looking up "sci hub" on Wikidata leads to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21980377 which has an "official website"…
      blattimwind on HN

Questions

  • How are ambiguous names like sci-hub.idk and scihub.idk handled?

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting idea but: - How do you handle ambiguity? e.g what happens when sci-hub.idk and scihub.idk differ? - Aren’t you concerned by the fact that Wikipedia is open to editing…
      erikig on HN
  • Does this comply with Wikipedia's terms of service?

    From 1 comment
    • Does this comply with the terms of service? I know this won’t be a popular reply and that’s fine, but I just want to know whether your admittedly intriguing concept isn’t taking…
      snorrah on HN

Alternatives named

  • DuckDuckGo "I'm Feeling Ducky" search prefix

    From 1 comment
    • Nice hack, but you can do it much easier with DuckDuckGo's "I'm Feeling Ducky", which is used by prefixing the search with a backslash: https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=%5Chacker%20news…
      sm4rk0 on HN
  • Wikidata official website field

    From 1 comment
    • Wouldn't this be an excellent use case for Wikidata? For example looking up "sci hub" on Wikidata leads to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21980377 which has an "official website"…
      blattimwind on HN

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