Web3Torrent
Languages and libraries
peer-to-peer file sharing
SHOW HN2020
206points
94comments
#266of 3,028 in 2020
Top 9%of 2020 by points
How HN took it
DebatedReal support and real criticism
19 positive, 18 neutral or asking, 2 mixed, 18 critical, out of 57 comments about the project. Thread score -0.03.
Idea: 14 for, 14 againstPricing: 4 for, 2 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 2 against
The thread, comment by comment
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What HN said
What people liked
Interesting technology that could incentivize seeding
From 3 comments
This has implications way beyond torrenting. This solves the incentivization of bandwidth in a decentralized way. If we now solve the closely related incentivization of long-term…
mratsim on HNI like this approach to incentivize seeding, this could create a boom in torrenting if it works decently well and enough people hop on board. Too bad this is only running on test…
reidjs on HNLike other people here, I think it's technologically interesting. Also, like many others, I don't see any great practical use-cases for this right now. However, "if you build it…
neiman on HN
Objections
No practical use case beyond a tech demo
From 3 comments
Furthermore, downloading the Ethereum Blockchain, going through shady exchanges to buy ether coins, and maintaining a secure wallet is a much bigger headache than simply paying…
ActsJuvenile on HNI can routinely download any torrent in the world on top speed... What problem does it solve? Torrents, as a poor choice for the "killer app", aside, state channels are a curious…
homakov on HNLike other people here, I think it's technologically interesting. Also, like many others, I don't see any great practical use-cases for this right now. However, "if you build it…
neiman on HN
Copyright and rights-holder payment problems
From 2 comments
> Users can upload files and begin seeding to earn small, incremental, amounts of money from anyone that downloads from them. How do you know that the user uploading the file…
tomphoolery on HNPeople pay for private trackers? Every private tracker I have heard of is free to use. They handle the seeding motivation problem by having rules in place that require whatever…
slg on HN
Legal liability for getting paid to share pirated files
From 2 comments
If you got paid for torrenting, a lot less people would torrent because of the much increased legal liability and massive increase in lawsuits.
sudosysgen on HNMost countries have much different penalties for piracy and selling pirated goods. For example, in Canada, the penalty for non-commercial infringement is generally about 100$,…
sudosysgen on HN
Ethereum privacy weaknesses make seeders traceable
From 1 comment
It's probably worth noting the horrible privacy characteristics of Ethereum. With the right resources, It's straightforward to track down the identity behind the seeders.
monokh on HN
Requests
Support for native torrent clients via BEP
From 1 comment
Is there a BEP to make this work for native torrents too? Also I don't understand the name "Web3torrent", is it intended to indicate a new version?
awirth on HN
Questions
Can one channel pay multiple seeders
From 1 comment
Can one state channel be used to pay multiple seeders? Or do I need to create a budget for each seeder I want to interact with?
typingmonkey on HN
Why the name Web3torrent
From 1 comment
Is there a BEP to make this work for native torrents too? Also I don't understand the name "Web3torrent", is it intended to indicate a new version?
awirth on HN
Alternatives named
Storj, Sia, Filecoin, MaidSafe
From 2 comments
storj.io already does this.
teknopurge on HNSia, MaidSafe, Storj, Filecoin, a number of networks either out or on the way for this kind of storage, theirs another one too but I can't remember the name of it for the life of…
cchance on HN
Private torrent trackers with seed ratio rules
From 2 comments
People pay for private trackers? Every private tracker I have heard of is free to use. They handle the seeding motivation problem by having rules in place that require whatever…
slg on HNThey instead require seeding performance/behaviour that almost necessitates renting a seedbox.
namibj on HN
Mojo Nation
From 1 comment
Fun history: Bram Cohen quit Mojo Nation to make BitTorrent. Mojo Nation aimed to solve exactly the problems you're talking about. It was too ambitious for its time, apparently,…
abecedarius on HN
DTube, PeerTube, LBRY, Livepeer
From 1 comment
https://about.d.tube/, https://joinpeertube.org/, https://lbry.com/, https://verasity.io/, https://livepeer.org/. Everybody's doing it. Not clear if anybody cares.
derefr on HN