Mimestream

Productivity

email client

SHOW HN2020

403points
272comments
#84of 3,028 in 2020
Top 3%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

46 positive, 77 neutral or asking, 7 mixed, 31 critical, out of 161 comments about the project. Thread score +0.11.

Idea: 13 for, 8 againstPerformance: 10 for, 2 againstDesign: 8 for, 3 againstExecution: 1 for, 9 againstPrivacy: 2 for, 6 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fast and native look that matches Apple Mail

    From 3 comments
    • I've been using the beta for a while and I'm happy to see it land here on HN. The two things I love most about Mimestream are: 1. It's wicked fast (seriously) 2. It has Gmail…
      mronge on HN
    • This looks amazing. I am so glad that you kept it as close to the native Mail experience as possible. My only question relates to payment. This is an app that I would gladly pay…
      sjroot on HN
    • The simplicity reminds me of Sparrow for Mac [1]. One of the best email apps ever made! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparrow_(email_client)
      Zaheer on HN
  • Gmail-style keyboard shortcuts

    From 1 comment
    • I've been using the beta for a while and I'm happy to see it land here on HN. The two things I love most about Mimestream are: 1. It's wicked fast (seriously) 2. It has Gmail…
      mronge on HN
  • No intermediary servers; data stays on the Mac

    From 2 comments
    • Hi HN! In the past, I spent over 7 years working on Apple Mail, and today I am really excited to share a new email client I'm building: Mimestream, a native macOS email client…
      njhaveri on HN
    • Yeah, I think difficulty making an IMAP connection is one reason. I think the biggest reason has been to decorate more features on top of the backing email service, like adding…
      njhaveri on HN

Objections

  • Gmail API is not meant to replace IMAP for full email clients and access could be disabled

    From 1 comment
    • Interesting to see the Gmail API being used for a general purpose email client when Google has a very visible note on the overview page that says: > Note: The Gmail API should…
      dugmartin on HN
  • Lacks offline support and snooze and scheduled send

    From 2 comments
    • Looks great. Missing 4 Gmail features that I dearly miss from the web UI: - Snooze - Scheduled Send - Undo send - Missing attachment warnings ("you said see attached but have no…
      wkirby on HN
    • Search is a merge of server-side results and a very basic local search that right now only looks at From and Subject. If you're offline, you'll get the local search results. When…
      njhaveri on HN
  • Relying only on Google conflicts with privacy stance

    From 2 comments
    • The application itself looks absolutely amazing, and the authors should be commended for it. That said, the FAQ mentions that the for-profit model is designed to avoid ads in the…
      darklion on HN
    • Looks fantastic. I strongly urge you to reconsider building out an application that serves only Google though!
      jonny383 on HN

Requests

  • Markdown support in composing

    From 3 comments
    • I have been using the gmail web app exclusively for one reason: I use the following Chrome Plugin to convert Markdown to HTML emails:…
      caillou on HN
    • Great work! I look forward to using this. Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet (I came across this post 100+ comments later), but one thing I miss terribly…
      acherion on HN
    • Markdown support has been a major theme from the feedback I've gotten today by email and here. In addition, I find myself personally wanting it all the time, at least so I can…
      njhaveri on HN
  • IMAP, JMAP and Outlook support

    From 3 comments
    • Thanks! IMAP account support is something I would really like to add (and Mimestream already uses IMAP for some specific operations where it is a better fit), but from past…
      njhaveri on HN
    • I am definitely interested in eventually supporting IMAP, JMAP, and Outlook in the long term. In the short term, the focus will be on making the Gmail support solid.
      njhaveri on HN
    • +1 for outlook 365
      brentis on HN
  • Snooze and scheduled send

    From 2 comments
    • Looks great. Missing 4 Gmail features that I dearly miss from the web UI: - Snooze - Scheduled Send - Undo send - Missing attachment warnings ("you said see attached but have no…
      wkirby on HN
    • Undo Send is definitely planned! The missing attachment warning is a great idea, I just added this to the backlog. Unfortunately, Gmail API support is lacking for Snooze:…
      njhaveri on HN
  • Delayed or scheduled delivery of mail

    From 1 comment
    • To the author : There are times where I would like my mail to be delivered at specific periods of time in the day rather than disturbing with any new email. Or perhaps a snooze…
      narenkeshav on HN
  • iPad or iOS version

    From 1 comment
    • Looks great! Given how bad Gmail is on iPad Safari and how bad the Gmail iPad app is there is probably a market there if you port.
      philips on HN

Questions

  • What pricing model will be used

    From 1 comment
    • This looks amazing. I am so glad that you kept it as close to the native Mail experience as possible. My only question relates to payment. This is an app that I would gladly pay…
      sjroot on HN
  • What advantages the Gmail API gives over IMAP

    From 1 comment
    • What are the advantages (for users) of using Gmail API over IMAP/JMAP? It sounds like huge disadvantage when email client works with just one provider.
      meehow on HN

Alternatives named

  • Apple Mail

    From 1 comment
    • There are two main differences: 1. Mimestream uses the Gmail API (instead of IMAP), so it supports more Gmail features: Gmail categorized inboxes, first-class labeling support…
      njhaveri on HN
  • Gmail web interface

    From 1 comment
    • Nice to see a native app and not something Electron-based. I wonder about native app viability these days though. Years ago I used native email apps like Outlook, KMail, and…
      jkarneges on HN
  • Sparrow

    From 1 comment
    • The simplicity reminds me of Sparrow for Mac [1]. One of the best email apps ever made! [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparrow_(email_client)
      Zaheer on HN
  • AirMail

    From 1 comment
    • Great work! I look forward to using this. Not sure if this has been mentioned in the comments yet (I came across this post 100+ comments later), but one thing I miss terribly…
      acherion on HN

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