Visual Mind

AI

website visual scoring

SHOW HN2020

111points
171comments
#583of 3,028 in 2020
Top 20%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

12 positive, 45 neutral or asking, 6 mixed, 59 critical, out of 122 comments about the project. Thread score -0.39.

Design: 5 for, 12 againstIdea: 1 for, 16 againstExecution: 1 for, 16 againstPerformance: 4 for, 8 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 4 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fun idea and a useful extra feedback channel for designers

    From 2 comments
    • My website is a glorified footer and it managed "72% of users are expected to like your site" This is an interesting concept and another way to get feedback besides asking…
      thekeele on HN
    • This is neat, thank you for sharing. I'm using the publii default theme on my website and it ranks quite high. It said to get an even higher ranking I should consider denser…
      different_sort on HN

Objections

  • Scores look arbitrary and mostly driven by large hero images

    From 3 comments
    • I think this thing is just trained to like large hero images. Tried some of the most beautiful sites I know and got scores in the 10s and 20s, presumably from the presence of…
      donatj on HN
    • It has a bias and standard score for sites that have large text with images above the fold including it's own site. So https://myraah.io/index.php/visualmind netflix.com…
      ajani on HN
    • I dont want to sound like a hater here, but why is it that so many people in this thread claim a 72% score? This whole thing seems to me like it isn't any AI by the common…
      lionkor on HN
  • Results are inconsistent and fail on many sites, including personal sites

    From 3 comments
    • The results under "Here are few websites with similar visual scores as yours" were especially amusing for my site. I've received a score of 26 and the similar websites were: -…
      merelysounds on HN
    • My default Apache 404 page got a 38% of users will like it, 26 points for visually average, 20 for visual and 30 for clarity. After a few different URLs, my fail2ban kicked in,…
      heikkilevanto on HN
    • Very cool idea but it just does not seem to work just yet. My blog got 26 which I think looks quite nice (http://granitosaurus.rocks) but some random color rainbow websites score…
      wraptile on HN
  • Accuracy claim of 97% is unexplained and subjective

    From 2 comments
    • The site mentions: > Visual Mind is an AI engine specifically designed for understanding and scoring visual appearance of a website. Visual Mind has analyzed over a million…
      niknetniko on HN
    • I dont want to sound like a hater here, but why is it that so many people in this thread claim a 72% score? This whole thing seems to me like it isn't any AI by the common…
      lionkor on HN
  • Tips are generic and not actionable

    From 2 comments
    • “You can improve visual score by using better images and improving site layout to make it little more denser.” These suggestions need to be improved if they are going to be the…
      nf__85 on HN
    • I got 84% for my site https://myraah.io/index.php/visualmind/report/aHR0cDovL3BhZ2V3cy5jb20= I usually visit page performance sites to get some tips on things to improve on the…
      vicjicama on HN
  • Security hole: fetches local and internal URLs

    From 1 comment
    • Hrm. Does it really fetch "local" resources? Visual Mind summary report for http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data 38% of users are expected to like your site Yup. That's a…
      stevekemp on HN

Requests

  • Show context such as target audience and purpose

    From 2 comments
    • Complete nonsense in the absence of any sense of why a site is designed the way it is. Is it a product brochure? Is it something functional (e.g. a search engine)? Does it target…
      mikro2nd on HN
    • Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say. One big missing piece here is context. Attractive to whom? And in what context? My site is all about minimalism -…
      andersco on HN
  • More detailed and actionable design tips

    From 2 comments
    • I got 84% for my site https://myraah.io/index.php/visualmind/report/aHR0cDovL3BhZ2V3cy5jb20= I usually visit page performance sites to get some tips on things to improve on the…
      vicjicama on HN
    • I achieved 60 (72% of users will like it) with my side-project[1] which is mostly an artwork, I believe its colorfulness helped the score a lot. I'd love for the algorithm to…
      Zealotux on HN
  • Let users upload own screenshots or rate pages

    From 2 comments
    • @myraahio Given how quickly your site runs, I'm not entirely sure it runs a neural network - seems more like some weighted analysis based on some defined measures on simple…
      bArray on HN
    • I gave my website without the login credentials and got 38% for the 401 page. Then I added the credentials and got the same exact percentage. I know the creds worked, because the…
      forgotmypw17 on HN

Questions

  • How is accuracy measured for a subjective score?

    From 2 comments
    • The site mentions: > Visual Mind is an AI engine specifically designed for understanding and scoring visual appearance of a website. Visual Mind has analyzed over a million…
      niknetniko on HN
    • I dont want to sound like a hater here, but why is it that so many people in this thread claim a 72% score? This whole thing seems to me like it isn't any AI by the common…
      lionkor on HN
  • What is the training data and how does the algorithm work?

    From 2 comments
    • > Your site is visually VERY GOOD > Your website is better than 72% of millions+ websites analysed by Visual MIND AI for: http://doomlaser.com What's it actually doing under the…
      doomlaser on HN
    • High scores for my companies website https://thewolf.co.nz Do I wonder how accurate this could be and what the training data is.
      godmode2019 on HN

Alternatives named

  • Page performance sites such as PageSpeed-style tools

    From 1 comment
    • I got 84% for my site https://myraah.io/index.php/visualmind/report/aHR0cDovL3BhZ2V3cy5jb20= I usually visit page performance sites to get some tips on things to improve on the…
      vicjicama on HN

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