SecureAppy

Security and privacy

password manager

SHOW HN2020

39points
95comments
#1,225of 3,028 in 2020
Top 41%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

RoastedHalf or more of the comments are critical

4 positive, 11 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 23 critical, out of 38 comments about the project. Thread score -0.42.

Idea: 2 for, 9 againstPrivacy: 0 for, 7 againstDocs: 0 for, 5 againstDesign: 1 for, 1 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Clean design and landing page

    From 1 comment
    • all the comments here are getting hung up on the encryption. me, personally, i think you did a hell of a job with this. personally i'm not going to be sharing any launch codes…
      thrownaway954 on HN
  • Multi-platform sharing is a plus for couples

    From 1 comment
    • Agree, this is definitely a use case where multi platform is a big plus since the whole idea is to share data.
      Zitrax on HN

Objections

  • Security claims like military grade encryption and 4/6-digit passcodes are weak or misleading

    From 4 comments
    • https://www.secureappy.com/security: > Any data you save in the app is protected by military grade encryption (AES256 + PBKDF2). SecureAppy uses your passcode that only you know…
      oefrha on HN
    • There's nothing wrong with allowing a 4-bit passcode. The problem is that you're claiming "no one, not even SecureAppy can unlock or see your data" which is just not true when…
      oefrha on HN
    • Just a note: the phrase "military grade encryption" is so polluted that you probably want to remove it from marketing pages. I'm definitely not alone in thinking of cringey…
      zrobotics on HN
    • I closed the browser tab after reading "Militray Grade Encryption".
      jedisct1 on HN
  • Business model and long-term survival unclear

    From 2 comments
    • To the OP: The very first question I’d like to see addressed in an FAQ for a “free” app or service is what the business model is and how the company expects to survive. If I…
      newscracker on HN
    • The app is free. How do you plan to make money from it, so that it can stay in operation? Don't want to suddenly find out all our passwords are gone. Why would we put photos…
      draugadrotten on HN
  • Closed source despite end-to-end encryption claims

    From 1 comment
    • To the OP: The very first question I’d like to see addressed in an FAQ for a “free” app or service is what the business model is and how the company expects to survive. If I…
      newscracker on HN
  • iOS only

    From 1 comment
  • Security page lacks technical detail

    From 1 comment
    • The security page [1] is extremely light on details. For example, sharing information with others usually involves asymmetric encryption (public/private key) such as RSA or…
      justin_oaks on HN

Requests

  • Publish a security white paper

    From 2 comments
    • https://www.secureappy.com/security: > Any data you save in the app is protected by military grade encryption (AES256 + PBKDF2). SecureAppy uses your passcode that only you know…
      oefrha on HN
    • Hi oefra! Thanks for the feedback. We wanted to provide the same security pattern that iPhone's provide - 4 digit, 6 digit and alphanumeric. This gives the user the power to…
      daniel_sushil on HN
  • Add a FAQ on business model

    From 2 comments
    • To the OP: The very first question I’d like to see addressed in an FAQ for a “free” app or service is what the business model is and how the company expects to survive. If I…
      newscracker on HN
    • Thanks for explaining. I'd suggest you add some sort of faq or something on your page for people who might be interested in this. I, personally, don't use the apple ecosystem.
      pnutjam on HN
  • Android version

    From 1 comment
  • Web or desktop access

    From 1 comment
    • No web/desktop? So if I'm sitting at my desk I have to manually type the password by copying from my phone screen? I think this is too much to ask of people, especially since we…
      llimos on HN

Questions

  • How does the company make money?

    From 2 comments
    • The app is free. How do you plan to make money from it, so that it can stay in operation? Don't want to suddenly find out all our passwords are gone. Why would we put photos…
      draugadrotten on HN
    • To the OP: The very first question I’d like to see addressed in an FAQ for a “free” app or service is what the business model is and how the company expects to survive. If I…
      newscracker on HN
  • Why is it not open source?

    From 1 comment
    • To the OP: The very first question I’d like to see addressed in an FAQ for a “free” app or service is what the business model is and how the company expects to survive. If I…
      newscracker on HN
  • How does it differ from 1Password?

    From 1 comment
    • How does this compete with 1password? I don't see a competitive diffrentiator.
      trysomechai on HN

Alternatives named

  • 1Password

    From 2 comments
    • Hmm. I use 1Password with a vault we both share. Works great.
      allengeorge on HN
    • How does this compete with 1password? I don't see a competitive diffrentiator.
      trysomechai on HN
  • KeePassXC with shared database

    From 1 comment
    • You could also set up KeepassXC with a shared database, synced to a shared Dropbox account. And if you want to spend money, go donate to the KPXC devs.
      nerdponx on HN
  • Bitwarden

    From 1 comment
    • Or something like Bitwarden and have an family org where you put shared credentials.
      Spivak on HN
  • Signal

    From 1 comment

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