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239points
136comments
#209of 3,028 in 2020
Top 7%of 2020 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

17 positive, 33 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 25 critical, out of 78 comments about the project. Thread score -0.09.

Idea: 9 for, 2 againstDocs: 1 for, 6 againstExecution: 1 for, 6 againstPerformance: 1 for, 3 againstPricing: 1 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Positional audio and social feel make group conversations natural

    From 3 comments
    • This is really cool, I joined the launch chat and people were emulating in real life behaviors like standing in a circle and moving their focus to the speaker. I also noticed…
      joshuakelly on HN
    • This is awesome! Tried with a friend just now and the 3D audio is really something else.
      pojntfx on HN
    • If you've ever tried social apps in VR, you'll know that the "social presence" is what sets it apart from a 2D video call, even though you only see avatars of others and not…
      shafyy on HN
  • Works in the browser without a download

    From 2 comments
    • Here's a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/VVt0zCU.jpg In short, you move around in the virtual space and your avatar's head is your webcam feed. There is also positional audio, so…
      Raphmedia on HN
    • This is really cool, I joined the launch chat and people were emulating in real life behaviors like standing in a circle and moving their focus to the speaker. I also noticed…
      joshuakelly on HN

Objections

  • Landing page explains nothing before asking for camera access

    From 3 comments
    • Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or…
      sbarre on HN
    • No demo, and no explanation on the site before requesting mic and cam permissions
      obilgic on HN
    • Is it a trend to provide your visitors absolutely no information and expect them to click around?
      ibdf on HN
  • Fails to load or work on some browsers and devices

    From 4 comments
    • I can't get it working. I've tried in vanilla (no content/script blocking) Firefox and Chrome. I've accepted the microphone permission, but it seems there's a hard requirement on…
      hundchenkatze on HN
    • Went to the site with an iPad. Click create. It said it needed permissions. I said ok. It said something will be shown in the browser for me to confirm. Nothing happened. I could…
      thebravoman on HN
    • Firefox on Android. Avatar gives a black screen instead of (presumably) an image from the phone camera
      andybak on HN
    • Page only loads for me in incognito mode, normal mode just throws this error: https://imgur.com/a/JlEeyZj I disabled both privacy blocker extension, but no luck.
      tiborsaas on HN
  • Walking around a virtual space adds friction to calls

    From 1 comment
    • It's a cool idea but after trying it, I feel it needlessly incorporates all the constraints of the real world into the virtual world. Why should I waste time clicking my mouse to…
      oliv__ on HN

Requests

  • Add a demo video or clearer explanation on the front page

    From 2 comments
    • I'd add a video demo in the front page. Without a demo or something in the front page is hard to figure out what it does. Maybe you guys (the team) know it well and the…
      edumucelli on HN
    • Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or…
      sbarre on HN
  • Password protection for spaces

    From 1 comment
    • Nice idea. I had a bunch of "phantom" avatars for some reason (https://imgur.com/a/ixBGuK8) Some thoughts: - the idea someone just mentioned in the "launch party" about having a…
      richrichardsson on HN
  • Show own avatar and speaking indicators

    From 2 comments
    • I gave access to my camera and everything, but I didn't understand what this product does until I saw this screenshot in another thread: https://i.imgur.com/VVt0zCU.jpg I think…
      vincentmarle on HN
    • Nice idea. I had a bunch of "phantom" avatars for some reason (https://imgur.com/a/ixBGuK8) Some thoughts: - the idea someone just mentioned in the "launch party" about having a…
      richrichardsson on HN

Questions

  • How much was the domain

    From 3 comments
  • How does it make money

    From 1 comment
    • Have you done any measurements of capture-to-display latency? I've been interested in why Discord feels more natural than Zoom and so far I think it comes down to latency. As far…
      ghostpepper on HN
  • Why does it need camera access

    From 1 comment
    • Your homepage doesn't explain anything about what I should do when I land on it. What's a space? What's going to happen if I create or join one? Why would I want to do this? Or…
      sbarre on HN

Alternatives named

  • Mozilla Hubs

    From 2 comments
    • Cool! I think this kind of avatar embodiment is the future. I'm working on one that doesn't use the camera, but audio lip syncing to provide a good experience. https://jel.app…
      gfodor on HN
    • Mozilla Hubs is awesome for this too, you can set up the room with objects like presentations, or just various tables and it also lets you have a little window for your webcam…
      mangoman on HN
  • wonder.me

    From 1 comment
    • This is awesome. Reminds me of https://wonder.me quite a bit.
      bradhe on HN
  • getmibo

    From 1 comment
    • https://www.getmibo.com does something very similar.
      y10003 on HN

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