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962points
486comments
#12of 2,533 in 2021
Top 1%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

57 positive, 144 neutral or asking, 20 mixed, 64 critical, out of 285 comments about the project. Thread score -0.06.

Idea: 23 for, 14 againstExecution: 6 for, 17 againstPricing: 6 for, 14 againstPrivacy: 2 for, 13 againstDocs: 2 for, 2 against

The thread, comment by comment

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positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Unifies chats across networks and is a good Matrix client

    From 3 comments
    • I've been using this for several months now, and it's one of the biggest digital quality-of-life improvements I made in 2020. Getting modern chat networks to interact is never…
      tylermenezes on HN
    • While I think the core focus of Beeper as a cross platform messenger is great, the bigger positive here in my opinion is a matrix client with good UX and design. The user…
      usbfingers on HN
    • This looks great. I'm just in the middle of trying to set up a home server using dendrite to do exactly this (mainly for fun). This looks really well done and polished though.…
      jcul on HN
  • Polished design and UX

    From 2 comments
    • While I think the core focus of Beeper as a cross platform messenger is great, the bigger positive here in my opinion is a matrix client with good UX and design. The user…
      usbfingers on HN
    • This looks great. I'm just in the middle of trying to set up a home server using dendrite to do exactly this (mainly for fun). This looks really well done and polished though.…
      jcul on HN

Objections

  • $10 per month is too expensive

    From 3 comments
    • This looks nice, but $10 a month is a tough sell for me (I use only two of the supported platforms everyday, with about 20 messages total in a day, on average). Also, why does…
      AnonHP on HN
    • Wonderful promise ! I'm really thinking that I need an app like that one but how to justify the price ? I'm ready to pay for that kind of service but it's seems too expensive to…
      alaenix on HN
    • 10$/month is absurd
      noxer on HN
  • Third-party clients risk bans from platforms like Discord and WhatsApp

    From 3 comments
    • Doesn't using this with Discord run a risk of your account getting banned for using a third-party client? That's why the Cordless developer shut down the project:…
      jakelazaroff on HN
    • This is really cool however I’m worried about getting banned from discord using for using your service as I believe it’s not authorized on discord to use third party client
      vini808 on HN
    • I thought WhatsApp banned thirdparty apps some time ago? How does this work exactly?
      gkfasdfasdf on HN
  • iMessage bridge via jailbroken iPhone seems implausible or legally risky

    From 3 comments
    • If there is an iMessage bridge that would be considered a zero-day exploit. There is no official or un-office API for iMessage outside the Apple ecosystem and this is part of…
      soheil on HN
    • iMessage integration is interesting but I can’t imagine it will last. Not sure what type of wizardry you guys pulled but a cease and desist is likely on its way. Either way,…
      e-clinton on HN
    • I assume some part of the iMessage faq is a joke ? > This was a tough one to figure out! Beeper has two ways of enabling Android, Windows and Linux users to use iMessage: we send…
      carterschonwald on HN
  • Desktop client is closed source

    From 1 comment
    • I love the idea of hosted bridges (in fact I was thinking about starting my own service like this) and I'm glad that the bridges themselves are open source. However I would much…
      kevincox on HN

Requests

  • Support for SMS or VoIP

    From 1 comment
    • Any plans for VoIP SMS support? A few years ago, I moved my phone number to VoIP.ms to save about $50/month on my cellphone bill ($70 /month for calls, texts and data vs…
      miguelrochefort on HN
  • Send-later scheduling

    From 1 comment
    • Congrats on the launch! My understanding of the space is that there is a great desire for "super powered" messaging - especially over text. Any chance "send later" is a part of…
      lc3sim on HN
  • Google Chat support

    From 1 comment
    • How does it work? Most of those protocols are’t exactly open. Also please add support for Google Chat.
      mrweasel on HN

Questions

  • How the iMessage bridge works and whether it is open source

    From 3 comments
    • Serious question: Is the below a joke or legitimate? How in the world did you get iMessage to work on Android and Windows? This was a tough one to figure out! Beeper has two ways…
      el_dev_hell on HN
    • Looks awesome, I'm looking forward to trying it out! A couple questions: 1) Is the desktop app electron or native? 2) Is the Mac iMessage bridge open-source? Thanks!
      codebutler on HN
    • I thought I’d seen this before[0] Also: > I make no claims to this being production level reliability. It's very much beta software. Very beta @erohead does this quote from you 6…
      whycombagator on HN
  • Whether messages are visible to Beeper and how encryption works across bridges

    From 3 comments
    • Are paying users messages visible to Beeper? If so, then it's just another risk.
      visarga on HN
    • How does encryption work across the bridges? Is this written down anywhere? Signal, Telegram's Secret Chat, etc.
      johnisgood on HN
    • All of our bridges (except Slack and Discord, but will soon) use Matrix's e2e encryption scheme and all messages are stored encrypted on Beeper servers with a key that you…
      erohead on HN
  • How to get started after signing up

    From 2 comments
    • How do I get started? I put in my email like 10 minutes ago and have received nothing...
      uoflcards22 on HN
    • Went to their website, filled out the form, assumed I was signing up for a beta. Then...nothing happened. No automated emails, "you're in the beta!" notifications, nothing.…
      easyascake on HN

Alternatives named

  • Franz

    From 3 comments
    • Are there already many similar apps? I used two: Rambox https://rambox.pro/ and Franz https://meetfranz.com
      yingbo on HN
    • Isn't Beeper similar to Franz [0]? [0] https://meetfranz.com/
      saltybytes on HN
    • Not "All Your Chats". Franz is doing this already. It has a free version with limited features. The down side is it is a CPU hog. It doesn't support WeChat, neither is your…
      chenster on HN
  • Ferdi

    From 1 comment
    • For those that don't use a macintosh(or don't care about imessage), ferdi is a great free alternative
      WorldPeas on HN
  • Bitlbee

    From 1 comment
    • I mentioned bitlbee elsewhere in this thread, but in case people haven't heard of it, it's a similar beast to Beeper but it bridges chat systems to an IRC client of your choice…
      philsnow on HN
  • Weechat

    From 1 comment
    • I use weechat for this and it works fine. Slack, Discord, Signal, etc. all bridge fine (though Signal is a bit messy). And of course, IRC. The one thing I haven't figured out how…
      da_big_ghey on HN

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