M1 Chart

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205points
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#220of 2,533 in 2021
Top 9%of 2021 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

4 positive, 7 neutral or asking, 0 mixed, 8 critical, out of 19 comments about the project. Thread score -0.12.

Idea: 4 for, 8 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Useful visual of recent money printing

    From 1 comment
    • Oversimplified, but a very good visual representation of the scale of recent money-printing. MMT is being tried in realtime, even as the debate roundly defeats it.
      Wolfenstein98k on HN
  • Adds M2-adjusted view alongside M1

    From 1 comment
    • at least the author also provides the m2-adjusted, though it's not quite billed. you don't end up with the narrative that money printing was the entirety of equities performance…
      gimmeThaBeet on HN

Objections

  • M1 normalization is not meaningful because dollar price also depends on demand

    From 1 comment
    • Mainstream economists know that CPI isn't accurate because of changes in demand. So they created other indicators (like chained CPI [0]) to account for changes in the basket of…
      tylerhou on HN
  • Monetary base or M2 would be a better measure than M1

    From 1 comment
    • > I think our current method of measuring inflation against the CPI is nonsense, It's not nonsense for policies that are directly concerned with consumer prices, which most that…
      dragonwriter on HN
  • Money supply does not determine prices; velocity and other factors matter

    From 1 comment
    • This is very confused "Internet economics" take on the issue. Money in band account that is not used is just a number. As Fed puts more money into the economy, the velocity of…
      nabla9 on HN

Requests

  • Add monetary base option

    From 1 comment
    • > I think our current method of measuring inflation against the CPI is nonsense, It's not nonsense for policies that are directly concerned with consumer prices, which most that…
      dragonwriter on HN
  • Make the M1-adjusted label clearer in the dropdown

    From 1 comment
    • If the red line is the "M1-adjusted" price I would suggest having the "-adjusted" as part of the dropdown box, or some other way of making that more obvious. At first I thought…
      FartyMcFarter on HN

Questions

  • Why adjust by USD money supply at all

    From 1 comment
    • Why would you adjust for usd money supply? The only reason my (uninformed) self sees is that it’s arbitrary but fits a fiscal Hawk narrative. Fwiw I’m worried about inflation,…
      sf_rob on HN
  • What do the crossing points of the two lines mean

    From 1 comment
    • What are the various interpretations when these two line charts cross? Are they expected or not expected to cross to a great extent?
      jzer0cool on HN

Alternatives named

  • Gold-denominated S&P 500 chart by macrotrends

    From 1 comment
    • Here's the S&P 500 in "real money" that is, gold, over the past century: https://www.macrotrends.net/1437/sp500-to-gold-ratio-chart I was looking at that earlier today to try to…
      eloff on HN

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