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7 positive, 24 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 13 critical, out of 47 comments about the project. Thread score -0.04.

Execution: 2 for, 6 againstIdea: 3 for, 4 againstDocs: 0 for, 3 againstPerformance: 1 for, 0 against

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What people liked

  • Good idea and simple, clean web page

    From 2 comments
    • Interesting idea, and very nice and simple web page! I have no idea if people are willing to pay for it, but good on you for making an attempt. A question though, isn't Monte…
      Grustaf on HN
    • I really like this idea and wish all project management tools included it by default. Fwiw Fogbugz has been using it for over a decade, called Evidence Based Scheduling: -…
      SkyMarshal on HN
  • Evidence-based forecasting removes story point estimating

    From 1 comment
    • I've used this technique before at an employer. I thought it was crazy at first but I came to really like it. No more story points and estimating the size of tickets. The monte…
      dglass on HN

Objections

  • Lacks import from Jira or other trackers, so re-entering tasks is tedious

    From 3 comments
    • Feels like a good idea, but the hard part here is the data input. Do you have any plans to import from Jira or something like it? Ideally bi-directional sync after a given…
      bberenberg on HN
    • The idea is interesting, but it appears to involve using Vistimo's UI to break down projects and tasks. It feels incredibly waterfally, and also will involve re-entering mass…
      nwsm on HN
    • I thought this would be brilliant, so I clicked 'try it out' only to get through and be asked to manually write in the tasks. I have a huge backlog already in an external tool. I…
      breakfastduck on HN
  • Black box with no stated modeling assumptions or validation

    From 1 comment
    • The UI is slick, but why should I trust this black box? The "how does it work" section doesn't even mention * modeling assumptions * training data (if any) * validation (if any)…
      pton-throw on HN
  • Waterfall-like workflow and no task hierarchy like milestones

    From 2 comments
    • The idea is interesting, but it appears to involve using Vistimo's UI to break down projects and tasks. It feels incredibly waterfally, and also will involve re-entering mass…
      nwsm on HN
    • I like this! I would consider using it for some of our projects. Biggest issue I have is with the task list, for any reasonably complicated project we would at least need ability…
      alex_c on HN

Requests

  • Jira integration

    From 3 comments
    • Feels like a good idea, but the hard part here is the data input. Do you have any plans to import from Jira or something like it? Ideally bi-directional sync after a given…
      bberenberg on HN
    • Out of interest, why not make this a jira app and sell it in the atlassian marketplace? You get low cost distribution, the tool would fit right into the existing product everyone…
      danielmarkbruce on HN
    • I like this! I would consider using it for some of our projects. Biggest issue I have is with the task list, for any reasonably complicated project we would at least need ability…
      alex_c on HN
  • Sample project or report to view

    From 2 comments
    • Very interesting! Is there a sample report / projection available to view? I'd like to show this to a few coworkers without having to spend time loading in my own sample data
      enlightens on HN
    • You should 100% have a sample tool for people to play with on this homepage.
      skellystudios on HN
  • Milestones or feature grouping for tasks

    From 1 comment
    • I like this! I would consider using it for some of our projects. Biggest issue I have is with the task list, for any reasonably complicated project we would at least need ability…
      alex_c on HN

Questions

  • How the uncertainties are expressed in the model

    From 1 comment
    • I'd like to see some kind of explanation of how exactly you "express the various uncertainties" of the project. I'm not going to click the CTA until I understand what I'd…
      virgil_disgr4ce on HN
  • How to evaluate whether the estimates were accurate

    From 1 comment
    • The idea seems simple enough and the math to do these kinds of predictions is fairly straight forward unless there is some secret sauce under the hood that isn't obvious. I guess…
      a_zaydak on HN

Alternatives named

  • Vistimo full project management tool

    From 1 comment
    • You're right! Ensemble forecasting is great! Vistimo proper (https://www.vistimo.com) does both -- it gets individual high/low estimates from multiple people, and creates a…
      diiq on HN
  • Evidence Based Scheduling in FogBugz

    From 2 comments
    • Joel Spolsky described this technique, calling it Evidence Based Scheduling. I'm surprised that it didn't become more popular.…
      orlandohill on HN
    • I really like this idea and wish all project management tools included it by default. Fwiw Fogbugz has been using it for over a decade, called Evidence Based Scheduling: -…
      SkyMarshal on HN
  • LiquidPlanner

    From 1 comment
    • There's a product called LiquidPlanner built around this idea thats been around for years. A friend used to work there but I have no other affiliation. Looks like they're still…
      weeblewobble on HN
  • Actionable Agile

    From 1 comment
    • Neat idea. This looks somewhat similar to Actionable Agile except it's up front rather than relying on ticket cycle time. Are you able to share the task list so that each project…
      impute on HN

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