Bike

Productivity

outliner

SHOW HN2022

513points
236comments
#50of 2,570 in 2022
Top 2%of 2022 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

33 positive, 44 neutral or asking, 6 mixed, 18 critical, out of 101 comments about the project. Thread score +0.14.

Idea: 8 for, 7 againstDesign: 6 for, 7 againstPricing: 4 for, 2 againstExecution: 3 for, 1 againstPerformance: 3 for, 0 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Fluid animations feel polished and delightful

    From 2 comments
    • Congratulations on the release! It’s cool to see more outliners with multi-item text selection. The “fluid” animations look really delightful — I’m jealous! I know you’ve shared…
      jitl on HN
    • This is a great outliner. I'm quite impressed by how fluid it is. Great work! quick question: why you chose to go with HTML instead of making OPML the default file format? I'm…
      soapdog on HN
  • Fast and native, with open file formats and AppleScript support

    From 2 comments
    • In particular I love these features: - "respects your computer's memory and battery" - "uses open file formats" - "is scriptable" Feels like we should also think about these…
      camgunz on HN
    • This is great. It feels very fast, focused, native, and lightweight like all of HogBay's offerings. Is there any way to change the font? As a developer, non-monospace fonts feel…
      ryanianian on HN

Objections

  • Requires macOS 11, leaving older Macs unsupported

    From 2 comments
    • I've been refraining myself to upgrade to MacOSX 11 in order to not mess with my dev environment. Are you planning to release it for MaxOSX 10.14 or lower?
      soci on HN
    • Running the last gen Mac Mini Server which Apple decided to not support past Catalina. As a fan of TaskPaper, this appears to be the point where Apple obsolesce hits me because…
      bsg75 on HN
  • Animated cursor can make typing feel slower

    From 1 comment
    • This is an impressively well stripped down app. It's all I ever wanted from OmniOutliner (remember when it shipped with OS X?). Unfortunately, I've been drawn in by the linking…
      kall on HN
  • Subscription on the App Store version

    From 1 comment
    • Is this available on the App Store ? (Not a super big deal if not. Just like to manage all my subscriptions/purchases in one place. So makes updating easier along with the…
      Jcowell on HN
  • Free alternatives like Obsidian and Logseq exist

    From 1 comment
    • Why would I buy this over Obsidian or Logseq, both of which are free and support more platforms?
      smoldesu on HN

Requests

  • Change the underlying font

    From 2 comments
    • This is great. It feels very fast, focused, native, and lightweight like all of HogBay's offerings. Is there any way to change the font? As a developer, non-monospace fonts feel…
      ryanianian on HN
    • A simple font selector would be nice. I have some seriously impaired vision w/o correction and monospaced fonts really help when I have to look at a screen that way. That and…
      billrobertson42 on HN
  • Soft line breaks within a node

    From 1 comment
    • >Text editing should work as you expect. This is a nice feature of Bike. Often outliner apps constrain text editing in various ways. Bike doesn't do that. So, how do you add a…
      coldtea on HN
  • iOS version and sync

    From 2 comments
    • I think basic iCloud syncing between Macs should already work, just as part of the fact that Bike saves your outlines to some Mac OS file (not database). I know I need to do iOS…
      jessegrosjean on HN
    • If this supported multi-user synchronous editing Google-docs style I'd be thrilled.
      telesilla on HN
  • Full-screen mode and navigation bar

    From 2 comments
    • I made WriteRoom which coined "Distraction free writing". Good fullscreen mode for Bike is on my list for sure.
      jessegrosjean on HN
    • I think yes, but no plans are really set in stone at this point. I agree a navigation bar would help navigation in big outlines.
      jessegrosjean on HN

Questions

  • What the fluid editing actually does and what problem it solves

    From 1 comment
    • I watched the movie on the linked website, but I really don't get what "fluid" editing is supposed to be and what problem it solves? (I've been using OmniOutliner for years and…
      elcapitan on HN
  • Whether it supports Windows or older macOS versions

    From 1 comment
    • I've been refraining myself to upgrade to MacOSX 11 in order to not mess with my dev environment. Are you planning to release it for MaxOSX 10.14 or lower?
      soci on HN

Alternatives named

  • Workflowy

    From 2 comments
    • I've been using workflowy.com - looks VERY similar.
      twohaibei on HN
    • Workflowy and Logseq already provide these features. Am I missing something?
      ilrwbwrkhv on HN
  • Logseq

    From 2 comments
    • Workflowy and Logseq already provide these features. Am I missing something?
      ilrwbwrkhv on HN
    • Why would I buy this over Obsidian or Logseq, both of which are free and support more platforms?
      smoldesu on HN
  • OmniOutliner

    From 1 comment
    • This is an impressively well stripped down app. It's all I ever wanted from OmniOutliner (remember when it shipped with OS X?). Unfortunately, I've been drawn in by the linking…
      kall on HN
  • org-mode

    From 1 comment
    • Surprised nobody has mentioned org-mode yet. It does everything shown in the video: collapse/expand nodes, focus on subtrees, ability to highlight across rows/nodes, etc. That…
      mpwoz on HN
  • TaskPaper

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks! Bike's editor is pretty much: OutlinerLayer RowLayers LineFragmentLayers I use CoreText to line break and render into each LineFragmentLayer. A whole new level of…
      jessegrosjean on HN

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