Muse

Productivity

thinking workspace

SHOW HN2022

178points
153comments
#337of 2,570 in 2022
Top 14%of 2022 by points

How HN took it

MixedNo clear lean

12 positive, 26 neutral or asking, 4 mixed, 29 critical, out of 71 comments about the project. Thread score -0.15.

Pricing: 4 for, 16 againstIdea: 5 for, 4 againstDesign: 2 for, 4 againstExecution: 1 for, 1 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Good design and polish appreciated by users

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks Dan! Hope the Mac app is a good addition to your workflows as well.
      adamwiggins on HN
  • Local-first sync and offline use praised as a selling point

    From 1 comment

Objections

  • Subscription pricing is resisted by some users

    From 2 comments
    • Exciting to see innovation in the note-taking and brainstorming space. Too bad I've decided that the subscription model has got to go, so I'm not interested in using the 'free'…
      hatware on HN
    • Enlighten us! How are people that don't want to pay for software "their best customers"? GoodNotes is great, hope they can make the one-off payment model sustainable. But the…
      adamwiggins on HN
  • iPad and iPhone apps are limited, Mac app alone is limited

    From 2 comments
    • Thanks for the review. Agree with most of your points here, briefly: iPhone app is just capture right now, intended for "I just had this thought that I need to muse on later." We…
      adamwiggins on HN
    • Much appreciated. Sharing the journey is a big part of what has made this project fulfilling. As another commenter pointing out, the Mac app alone is somewhat limited without the…
      adamwiggins on HN
  • Apple lock-in and tablet hardware dependence

    From 2 comments
    • Very cool website, I can appreciate the effort that went into describing the features. I've been using Markdown-based tools for thought like Logseq and ObsidianMD, but have run…
      rchaud on HN
    • I skimmed the article, but what makes Android not sufficient to interact with Muse? I haven’t tried Muse, but I’ve thought plenty about building a local-first notebook app for…
      dgreensp on HN

Requests

  • Free or cheaper alternatives

    From 1 comment
  • Self-hosted sync service

    From 1 comment
    • Evernote is a good example of software that I think had a lot of promise but has decayed in quality and performance over time. No self-hosted sync service at the moment. At the…
      adamwiggins on HN
  • Better inking and smoothing

    From 2 comments
    • I'm a big believer in tools that make us feel good about our work. Pretty handwriting as an output is in that category. You'd be surprised how much engineering goes into point…
      adamwiggins on HN
    • Changing while you write sounds surprising. All ink engines have some amount of retroactive smoothing going on, but typically (and this is the same for Muse) it should only be…
      adamwiggins on HN

Questions

  • Whether data can be kept in version control or exported

    From 1 comment
    • It's freemium rather than a trial, so you can use it for free for as long as you want. (Assuming I'm understanding your request there.) It does export a Muse bundle which is a…
      adamwiggins on HN
  • Whether the app keeps working if the company shuts down

    From 2 comments
    • If Muse disappears tomorrow. Servers shut down and all. Would access to notes still work? I am not actually in fear of something happening that suddenly. I defended the general…
      skinnymuch on HN
    • In that case you'd still have full access to your documents. In keeping with local-first values the complete and canonical dataset resides on your devices (Macs/iPads). Sync…
      adamwiggins on HN

Alternatives named

  • GoodNotes

    From 1 comment
    • GoodNotes is great! More of a digital sketchbook (and better than Muse if you're focused purely on the inking/sketching part of things). On paying for software, here's some…
      adamwiggins on HN
  • Obsidian

    From 2 comments
    • Yeah, truly an unsolved problem. Obsidian seems to have found a good path--free for the core product, $10/mo (standard price for prosumer apps) for sync. But we felt like sync is…
      adamwiggins on HN
    • Obsidian is great, and they are similarly priced to us ($10/mo for sync). We felt that local-first sync is a core feature of the product, and to exclude free users from that…
      adamwiggins on HN
  • Kinopio

    From 1 comment
  • OneNote

    From 1 comment
    • Thanks for the review. Agree with most of your points here, briefly: iPhone app is just capture right now, intended for "I just had this thought that I need to muse on later." We…
      adamwiggins on HN

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