Ory Kratos

Infrastructure

identity server

SHOW HN2022

290points
65comments
#149of 2,570 in 2022
Top 6%of 2022 by points

How HN took it

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9 positive, 27 neutral or asking, 5 mixed, 5 critical, out of 46 comments about the project. Thread score +0.07.

Execution: 2 for, 2 againstDocs: 2 for, 0 againstIdea: 1 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 1 against

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What HN said

What people liked

  • Documentation explains how auth systems work

    From 2 comments
    • I learned so much about AuthN and AuthZ from reading Ory code and docs. Sometimes it seems like Ory is the only web auth stuff on the internet that’s intended for you to…
      skrtskrt on HN
    • The Ory suite seems like quite an amazing project! I have read through quite a bit of the documentation and I really appreciate the in depth yet understandable explanations of…
      moooo99 on HN
  • Components are modular and understandable

    From 1 comment
    • I love the way Ory is set up and documented to be understandable and deployable as components. I played with Kratos a couple weeks ago and made a single vm deployment using…
      tinco on HN
  • Solid in professional use

    From 1 comment
    • Using it professionally at my current client, seems solid so far. Good work!
      davedx on HN

Objections

  • Documentation gaps for integrations and some features

    From 2 comments
    • Congratulations on Kratos coming out of Beta. We evaluated Ory a few months ago. My understanding: 1. Ory Kratos provides session-based authentication and user management. 2. Ory…
      wharfjumper on HN
    • The Ory suite seems like quite an amazing project! I have read through quite a bit of the documentation and I really appreciate the in depth yet understandable explanations of…
      moooo99 on HN
  • Calling it identity is misleading for what it does

    From 2 comments
    • Hey, I've seen the project in the past and it's very interesting, and definitely an improvement over existing alternatives. That said, I have one complaint quite unrelated to…
      slx26 on HN
    • A user account, an email or a phone number do not uniquely identify a person or process, and it doesn't tell you whether it's actually a person or a process. Edit: "account" may…
      slx26 on HN
  • API only, needs a separate UI to be built

    From 2 comments
    • Is there an UI for the identity management like defining roles and assigning identities to roles? I see the API part. But is there an UI part, besides the self-service account…
      PinguTS on HN
    • It's API only. The UI is for you to create.
      donatzsky on HN

Requests

  • SAML support

    From 1 comment
  • Multi-tenancy like Keycloak realms

    From 1 comment
    • Are there plans for handling multi-tenancy? Sort of like with Keycloak's realms.
      atonse on HN
  • Token authentication and service tokens

    From 1 comment
    • Ory suite looks amazing. I think the biggest things I'm missing are token authentication and with that, services tokens. I saw a thread saying it'll be implemented at some point…
      lapser on HN

Questions

  • How does it differ from Keycloak

    From 2 comments
    • Quick question: how does this differ from keycloak? Are they competing products or do they work fundamentally differently?
      revel on HN
    • I'm also a huge fan of Keycloak for the same reason. It's been a while since I've looked at the Ory suite, but at least a year or two ago Keycloak was still the much more mature…
      andrewstuart2 on HN
  • Can users migrate from IdentityServer4 and ASP.NET Identity

    From 2 comments
    • Would it be possible to migrate from IdentityServer4 & ASP.NET Identity Core? I currently have a SaaS running those 2 and would love to eventually migrate all users to Kratos.
      longrod on HN
    • Pretty sure! We have documentation on importing users and already support several hashing algorithms. Support for more algorithms will follow soon!
      baconfly on HN
  • Is there a UI for role management

    From 1 comment
    • Is there an UI for the identity management like defining roles and assigning identities to roles? I see the API part. But is there an UI part, besides the self-service account…
      PinguTS on HN

Alternatives named

  • Keycloak

    From 2 comments
    • I'm also a huge fan of Keycloak for the same reason. It's been a while since I've looked at the Ory suite, but at least a year or two ago Keycloak was still the much more mature…
      andrewstuart2 on HN
    • This was one of the primary reasons I ended up going with Keycloak, it's "batteries included" as far as UI goes. UI for management, impersonation, configuration, etc... with…
      claytongulick on HN
  • Duende IdentityServer

    From 2 comments
    • In the .NET world, while no longer free (still is open source), there is https://duendesoftware.com/. The folks behind the company and libraries know what they're doing.
      daigoba66 on HN
    • I think "Identity Provider" is more correct, no? "IdentityServer" is the name of a specific IdP implemented in .NET (formerly OSS as…
      smcl on HN
  • AWS Cognito

    From 1 comment
    • Congratulations on Kratos coming out of Beta. We evaluated Ory a few months ago. My understanding: 1. Ory Kratos provides session-based authentication and user management. 2. Ory…
      wharfjumper on HN
  • node-oidc-provider

    From 1 comment
    • I'm passing familiar with this area, but not as familiar as I should be... How does this compare to something like this - https://github.com/panva/node-oidc-provider Are they…
      Nursie on HN

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