OpenSign

Web and SaaS

e-signature

SHOW HN2023

545points
160comments
#50of 3,109 in 2023
Top 2%of 2023 by points

How HN took it

CuriousMostly questions and neutral comments

8 positive, 45 neutral or asking, 3 mixed, 21 critical, out of 77 comments about the project. Thread score -0.12.

Idea: 3 for, 13 againstExecution: 1 for, 1 againstDesign: 0 for, 2 againstPricing: 0 for, 1 againstDocs: 0 for, 1 against

The thread, comment by comment

Each row is a top-level comment and its replies, in HN's order. Select a cell to open that comment on HN.

positive neutral or mixed critical about another commenter or something else the maker

What HN said

What people liked

  • Open source transparency is valued.

    From 1 comment
    • We take pride in being open source as we are sure being open source brings a lot more transparency in the entire process. When it comes to the authenticity of a signed document,…
      alexopensource on HN
  • Seen as a brilliant, useful project.

    From 2 comments

Objections

  • Doubts about legal validity and jurisdiction compliance of signatures.

    From 2 comments
    • My understanding (possibly incorrect) is that competing with DocuSign is hard because of the need to follow obscure state and National laws (many of which are defined by case law…
      yodon on HN
    • Are there really any laws requiring special types of signatures? Because I've never had a legal doc sent to me that they weren't fine with just stamping my signature on the line…
      jjeaff on HN
  • Calling signatures tamper-proof is overstated; tamper-resistant is more accurate.

    From 2 comments
    • > Our solution is currently able to safely sign a document with a digital signature that will make it tamper-proof Who holds the secret key that actually signs the document? If…
      petertodd on HN
    • That's a reasonable, and pragmatic, way to implement this. But I'd still call it "tamper-resistant". One reason why is in situations where senders or recipients have modified…
      petertodd on HN
  • Trusted third party model is missing compared to DocuSign.

    From 2 comments
    • This is naïve. DocuSign's main sell from a commercial perspective is it separates the parties into the signer, the signee and the authority. If the authority is the signee or the…
      baz00 on HN
    • I suppose there is a need of a trusted 3rd entity that runs the service. Otherwise anybody could run the service and pretend that anybody else signed any documents they want at…
      ChrisCinelli on HN
  • Concern that paid features will appear later and self-hosted version may become proprietary.

    From 2 comments
    • And soon after suddenly the Pricing page appears, after 3 months of disappointment convenient features turn paying ones. In some more years it is just as expensive as Docusign.…
      szundi on HN
    • Your CONTRIBUTING.md file says "By contributing, you agree that your contributions will be licensed under its MIT License." Since OpenSign is AGPLv3, why don't you allow…
      josephcsible on HN

Requests

  • Self-hosting documentation without AWS S3 dependency.

    From 3 comments
    • > You will need to create an AWS S3 bucket or digital ocean space in order to store your uploaded documents The org I work for would love to self-host on-premise a digital…
      johnchristopher on HN
    • As others pointed out, update documentation for self-host setup without the need of AWS. Since the project is open-source, update the documentation with local setup,…
      lokesh1729 on HN
    • I went to the installation instructions: https://github.com/OpenSignLabs/OpenSign/blob/main/INSTALLATION.md And it says you can auto-deploy to DigitalOcean (neat) and to a local…
      icelancer on HN
  • Support for more storage providers including self-hosting.

    From 1 comment
  • Ability to edit or re-create contacts before signing.

    From 1 comment
    • I think it needs a way to review the contacts (other than the request signatures form), and to edit them (in case I put the wrong e-mail originally), or at least delete and…
      tz18 on HN
  • Timestamping via OpenTimestamps.

    From 1 comment
    • > For comprehensive guidelines on how to use OpenSign, please consult our User Manual. FYI, USAGE.md seems to be missing. Also, a suggestion: while I agree with other posters…
      petertodd on HN

Questions

  • How is this different from Documenso, DocuSeal or opensignapp?

    From 4 comments
    • Is this different from https://opensignapp.com/ ?
      tz18 on HN
    • How is this different from docuseal.co?
      exhil on HN
    • how is this different to Documenso.com? that looks more advanced
      Peer_Rich on HN
    • I heard of this a while ago too - https://github.com/documenso/documenso
      coldtrait on HN
  • Who holds the signing key and how is tampering prevented?

    From 2 comments
    • > Our solution is currently able to safely sign a document with a digital signature that will make it tamper-proof Who holds the secret key that actually signs the document? If…
      petertodd on HN
    • Doesn't contemporary PDF (for example) have something like a built in interpreter? How do you stop someone from, say, making a document that changes the wording after a certain…
      upofadown on HN
  • Is the AGPL license compatible with plugins calling the hosted API?

    From 1 comment
    • This looks great. If there’s anyone familiar with this or from the product team would sincerely appreciate any insights on this scenario. Looking at the AGPL license, where would…
      j45 on HN

Alternatives named

  • DocuSign

    From 1 comment
    • DocuSign itself just refers you to your own counsel for legal advice, but does publish and update a handy multi-country legal reference. For the US one, at least, they give…
      wrs on HN
  • Documenso

    From 2 comments
    • I heard of this a while ago too - https://github.com/documenso/documenso
      coldtrait on HN
    • how is this different to Documenso.com? that looks more advanced
      Peer_Rich on HN
  • DocuSeal

    From 1 comment
  • RocketChat-style open source projects and rabbitsign

    From 1 comment
    • Ive been using rabbitsign since 2021 to get signatures on legal docs for work. Covid made this acceptable. https://www.rabbitsign.com/
      blurr123 on HN

Category, keywords, summaries and labels on this page were made by AI (Thread Reader v2) and not checked by hand. Each point links to the comments it came from.

Add a badge to your READMEShown on HackerShow
[![Shown on HackerShow](https://hackershow.org/badge.svg)](https://hackershow.org/show/38052344)